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Topic: Any news about 5.1 ? - Page: 2

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Well lets answer these in order.

- I don't use the visualizations, can't address that

Very important to have spectacular visualizations and a wide range of them. Not repeating always the same. Easy to load, and easy to change.

-The database management is very very very good. Way better than WMP or Winamp. Neither of those two give me the potions of placing my music folders where I want them to be. They put it in a folder and thats that. VDJs search feature is way way way better than those two programs as well.

Im an experienced computer engineer ( almost) and vdj database is similar to wmp or winamp. Transparent to folders and locations. I made some months ago this suggestion and it seem dev team accepted my suggestion. vdj 5 database its incredible better than vdj 3 and perhaps vdj 4 ( i used very little vdj4). But still they are differences between this library system and vdj.

-18 months of hard use with multiple controllers and PCs and not one crash that I didn't immediately know the cause of (static, or me changing skins while the program is playing two songs at once that type of thing)

Every two or three weeks ( two or three sessions) i have a problem that freezes a song or video and i have to restart computer. Not one problem. This means its stability problem or tolerance to errors. Im not quite happy with this. No midi controllers. Only one pc. Vdj + esi u46dj + external mixer. I dont think its acceptable crashes in a session ( although you know the cause)


-Yes it is only fair that skins and plugins are approved by ATOMIX. If a bad skin or pluggin were released to the general public that caused nothing but heartaches we all know who would get blamed...ATOMIX.

I think its necessary. There's a little mess between plugins versions, vdj versions , backwards compatibility and what about MIDI controllers maps ( vdj hast to release an official list of supported controllers with their respective map and fix issues as quick as they can)... Atomix has to put all these things in order. Some Atomix certificate or something like that. A user dont know if its a plugin problem or vdj problem. A normal user watch a crash... You give me the reason.
Also atomix have to assure or certificate some codecs library like kazaa-lite, ffdshowtryouts ... As codecs accept stability and performance, atomix should recommend onse as an official vdj codec pack or certificate one, and even better optimize and adapt it to vdj users.

-I have been assured a new BPM engine is being worked on as we speak. Which would give more accurate BPM calculations.

I have one point. This is very important to search songs that are similar to the one id playing. If this fails you can put a ballad after some dance remix ( im jokin you understand me)

The Linux question has been asked many many times I am sure its being investigated. The bug fixing is being addressed from what I have been told. To minimize upgrade to resolve bugs is also being addressed.

I sign for a linux version of vdj ( im a linux user). But what i mean is that if you are familiar with linux systems, they give updates every few days. I want atomix learn about how linux developers work. As they fix a bug or security issue or an upgrade of any element of the software, they publish it in order to benefit users. Example: i read in other posts that vdj doesnt work well with some nvidia cards. If this issue is solved by dev team, why all the nvidia users have to wait many months ? it would be more honest to post the correction. Sony Ericsson uses a system similar to this with upgrading firmware and software of their mobile phones. Bugfixes and security issues have to have a high priority because if you solve a bug, you probably are helping lots of people. This update service would be only for licensed users. You ideally can something similar to WinowsUpdate service. But this service has to be active. As i say it has to have more releases


You are, of course, most welcome to join us and share whatever knowledge or experience you might have. So, please reconsider purchasing the product, you would find yourself most welcome by everyone who has bought it before you.....

 

ejgutierrez wrote :


Every two or three weeks ( two or three sessions) i have a problem that freezes a song or video and i have to restart computer. Not one problem. This means its stability problem or tolerance to errors. Im not quite happy with this. No midi controllers. Only one pc. Vdj + esi u46dj + external mixer. I dont think its acceptable crashes in a session ( although you know the cause)



For every crash there is a reason.
Search u46dj for starters.
There are some really buggy cracks out there too, you're fault on that one, but blame Atomix first.
Obviously not a demo version, so what can be said...
There are many many success stories here that have no such issues.

We welcome your vast experiences, but lets get on the same page with a legit copy of the software if you want to discuss current problems.

Don't expect Winamp visualizations or R4 to be included, Sonique is doing a good job without the overhead that those carry with them and clip bank is offering up way more if you want custom.

But please buy the software, then criticise the current version.
 

mp3jrick wrote :
ejgutierrez wrote :


Every two or three weeks ( two or three sessions) i have a problem that freezes a song or video and i have to restart computer. Not one problem. This means its stability problem or tolerance to errors. Im not quite happy with this. No midi controllers. Only one pc. Vdj + esi u46dj + external mixer. I dont think its acceptable crashes in a session ( although you know the cause)



For every crash there is a reason.
Search u46dj for starters.
There are some really buggy cracks out there too, you're fault on that one, but blame Atomix first.
Obviously not a demo version, so what can be said...
There are many many success stories here that have no such issues.

We welcome your vast experiences, but lets get on the same page with a legit copy of the software if you want to discuss current problems.

Don't expect Winamp visualizations or R4 to be included, Sonique is doing a good job without the overhead that those carry with them and clip bank is offering up way more if you want custom.

But please buy the software, then criticise the current version.


I gotta agree. The cracked versions have many bugs in them.. They are not the same as the real versions
 

I for one could care less about his concerns. I learned a long time ago, you can not please everyone, and I do not try. I will be the first one to suggest to anyone, that if they can find a better software, they should buy it. It is ridiculous to try to cultivate every single person that comes to this forum, so stop it. This software can stand on it's own two feet, so stop bowing down to silly little request, from non paying users. If they like the software, buy it, if not keep it moving. For every one that goes somewhere else, there will be 50 that buy the software. That is life, so let the cryers keep crying. BMW does not try to please every person that drives a car, we should not try to please everyone that has a headphone. This goes for every product on the market. For anyone else that is thinking of buying this software, let me clear up a couple of things. This software works for thousands and thousands of professional and non professional users. The fixes are put out as soon as the company feels they are ready, and the history shows that they have been very consistent, and timely. Features and upgrades have been numerous and free, period. Plug-ins of every type have been donated, from very hard working members of this community. The company has supported the popular and not so popular controllers, that have hit the market. The forum is first class, and anyone can get help, whether they deserve it or not. As you can see, this software has much to offer, and will continue to improve. If that is not good enough for you, too bad. On the other hand, if you understand that no software is perfect, you will find the features and value of this software, equal to or better than anything on the market. This is how I run my company, and these are my personal views. I am not for everybody, and will tell you to hire another DJ in a minute. I offer an excellent service, if you like it hire me. That's why we have more than Wonder bread on store shelves. I do not own any VDJ stock, don't work for the company, but am just a forum user like every one else.

This is not my forum and he can say what ever they allow him to say. It is obvious to me what his intentions are, after 18 months. It only takes 9 months to produce a human, so let's get real. There is no need to be nasty to him, we do not have to even answer him.
 

Well can someone address a 5.1 question i had in regards to VSTs then since everyone has answers to questions on here?


I need help trying to figure out how to use a delay. I've downloaded some of the Free VSTs and it doesnt appear to do what I need it to. At first I thought it was an issue with the effects but Im now starting to realize it might actually be a VDJ problem.

So basically I want to use a delay effect that echos out so I can do transitions between songs... (see attached YouTube clip for example)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJoPjbtEIdM

When I use any delay effect in VDJ it will work while the record is playing however it will not echo out. I can do this in Torq however I rather use VDJ since its a much better program. I'm assuming VDJ needs some type of Insert/Sends in the program to create this? Either way can someone help me set this up or tell me if its possible. I rather not use external effects as I dont have a unit and the mixer i have now does not have aux inputs.

Please tell me this can be done with VDJ...

FYI - my boy has the professional version and the delay still does not trail out so I know its not the version of VDJ I have.
 

dtweed76 wrote :
Well can someone address a 5.1 question i had in regards to VSTs then since everyone has answers to questions on here?


I need help trying to figure out how to use a delay. I've downloaded some of the Free VSTs and it doesnt appear to do what I need it to. At first I thought it was an issue with the effects but Im now starting to realize it might actually be a VDJ problem.

So basically I want to use a delay effect that echos out so I can do transitions between songs... (see attached YouTube clip for example)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJoPjbtEIdM

When I use any delay effect in VDJ it will work while the record is playing however it will not echo out. I can do this in Torq however I rather use VDJ since its a much better program. I'm assuming VDJ needs some type of Insert/Sends in the program to create this? Either way can someone help me set this up or tell me if its possible. I rather not use external effects as I dont have a unit and the mixer i have now does not have aux inputs.

Please tell me this can be done with VDJ...

FYI - my boy has the professional version and the delay still does not trail out so I know its not the version of VDJ I have.



You could not find a better place for this topic? It's like saying, "hey I don't care what you guys are talking about, look at what I have to say". Start a new thread.
 

A Man and His Music wrote :
dtweed76 wrote :
Well can someone address a 5.1 question i had in regards to VSTs then since everyone has answers to questions on here?


I need help trying to figure out how to use a delay. I've downloaded some of the Free VSTs and it doesnt appear to do what I need it to. At first I thought it was an issue with the effects but Im now starting to realize it might actually be a VDJ problem.

So basically I want to use a delay effect that echos out so I can do transitions between songs... (see attached YouTube clip for example)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJoPjbtEIdM

When I use any delay effect in VDJ it will work while the record is playing however it will not echo out. I can do this in Torq however I rather use VDJ since its a much better program. I'm assuming VDJ needs some type of Insert/Sends in the program to create this? Either way can someone help me set this up or tell me if its possible. I rather not use external effects as I dont have a unit and the mixer i have now does not have aux inputs.

Please tell me this can be done with VDJ...

FYI - my boy has the professional version and the delay still does not trail out so I know its not the version of VDJ I have.



You could not find a better place for this topic? It's like saying, "hey I don't care what you guys are talking about, look at what I have to say". Start a new thread.


A Man and His Music - Taking a page from your book and everything you have taught me today from reading ur post. I honestly dont care about your opinion or what you think about my ill timed post since you did not help answer my questions (j/k being sarcastic)

But seriously this post was in regards to 5.1 and my question relates to the topic because I want to know if it will be implemented in this version. So its not I dont care what anyone had to say. I figured it was all related since we are talking about features we would like to see for 5.1 besides ya'll beat the poor other guy to death
 

The delay was created as a plugin by a member like yourself. To have a true fade out the parameters would have to be changed. VDJ just supports the plugin but was not create by them. The best advise is to go to the PLUGIN forum and put a request of your looking for. You would have a better success rate that way.... Heck, I would like to see it myself.

DJCEL, if your lurking about. Just kidding, I know you got your hands full.

Seriously, post on the plugin forum.
 

Thanks Fatkatz - I already did but I was still waiting for a response. I figured I would have some luck here as sell in case one of the moderators had the inside scoop
 

So i dont know how many people criticizing me. Some points:

1 - I dont doubt that vdj its a WONDERFUL software. Its easy to use and it helps both vj and dj. I only say that are some things that can be improved ( and as i can see im not the only one). If you make a better software more people would buy it, and i put myself in the pole position.

2 - I want to point out some things that IN MY OPINION can be improved. Its decission of vdj dev team and stuff to accept this suggestions or not. As its my decission to buy or not vdj. If it suits my needs and i consider a fair price i would buy it. Otherwise i wont. As all people make with their pc, car, dvd, tv etc ... Compare, evaluate pros and contras, evaluate price and take a decission. Decissions of atomix affect people's behaviour. Price is another key in order to buy or not something.

3 - As i said in other post, this forum is free and open to everyone ( at least till today). You all have to respect the people who think different of you. I have treated all the people with respect and education. There is not an obligation of buying vdj in order to participate. So i have the same rights ( in this forum) as everyone else ( the SAME).

4 - If you are objective and read some posts, you can find out that plugins, skins and midi maps are buggy and cause diverse problems and crashes. Update service can be seriously improved. i dont mean regular releases as someone point out before. I speak about three, four weeks updates ( bug fixes, security issues, midi controllers, midi maps updates). Another example: firefox. If you use firefox you can often upgrade many things ( skins, add-ons, security etc ...). In 18 months i havent seen the progress i would like to see ( ME , perhaps other people is satisfied)

5 - Codecs ( audio, video) is another fountain of bugs. Some Atominx Codec Pack would be great. If not another pack like kazaa-codec-pack, ffdshow etc ... could be optimized and adequate to vdj ( some kind of atomix certificate).

5 - I know perfect software doesnt exist. But you have to be honest to yourself, know what things are ok, what things must have an update, what things must be rewritten. I only want to point out my opinion and open discussions about my points of view. My opinions could be useful to dev team. But they have no obligation to read my posts or read my opinions.

6 - They seem to be some vdj radicals here that cant assume that vdj is not perfect. Some vdj talibans that dont help much in vdj development process. I recommend them not to waste their time in critisizing me, but in open posts and messages in order to improve vdj, its performance and stability and features. Or better they have to dedicate the same time posting new ideas and bugs as they spent criticizing me or other people without license.

Sorry for my bad english im spanish hope you understand everything if not i would post a new message in spanish

Respect
 

All I read from this is I, I, I, I...please support this software....it is worth every peso. If the piracy team is successful soon it will not be available for free so why not take the plunge? You will be glad you did!
 

TearEmUp wrote :
If the piracy team is successful soon it will not be available for free


Good, about time too.



 

ok...

I have to say it is funny how someone whom basically admitted to using a cracked version has feedback on software he didn't purchase.

good anology:
I will download a pirated version of the new Madonna album and let her know how much she needs to change this or that with her style and tracks... and if she re-releases it with changes from my opinion... I might buy it.


the reason there is a demo here to download is for exactly that. Try before you buy. the demo should give you a definite idea of what this software can do. Then and only then can you have grounds to give input on what you would like see changed for you to really buy it. But if you have been using a pirated version and bitch about it crashing or it doesn't have certain features you seek.. then you have ABSOLUTELY NO GROUNDS FOR INPUT. Granted this is an open forum where anyone can post but keep in mind if you want a real response to your questions you won't get it unless you gain the respect of already mass amount of experienced users willing to help you.. the only way... buy it! if it is too expensive... use winamp and stop bitching. You get what you pay for!
 

TearEmUp

All I read from this is I, I, I, I...please support this software....it is worth every peso. If the piracy team is successful soon it will not be available for free so why not take the plunge? You will be glad you did!

I can give MY OPINION. I cant speak instead other people. Can you please have some ideas or discussions to improve vdj ? Thats what i want to hear from you.





low-fat-al

ok...

the reason there is a demo here to download is for exactly that. Try before you buy. the demo should give you a definite idea of what this software can do. Then and only then can you have grounds to give input on what you would like see changed for you to really buy it. But if you have been using a pirated version and bitch about it crashing or it doesn't have certain features you seek.. then you have ABSOLUTELY NO GROUNDS FOR INPUT. Granted this is an open forum where anyone can post but keep in mind if you want a real response to your questions you won't get it unless you gain the respect of already mass amount of experienced users willing to help you.. the only way... buy it! if it is too expensive... use winamp and stop bitching. You get what you pay for!

In this forum i have THE SAME rights as you. If you want to have more privileges or you think you are a superior human, you can suggest to create a vip forum for licensed only people. Again im not bitchin anyone, so waste your time in new ideas or bugs for improving vdj. Dont be so innocent: do you think vdj is cracked because of trial version ? do you think im the only one in the world with cracked version ? Cracked or hacked versions of software are everywhere in Internet. And not only vdj. Do you have a licensed Microsoft Office pack ? Do you have a Windows XP or Vista licensed ? Do you have a license for Photoshop ? When you change the Office pack from xp to 2007 or similar you pay to Microsoft ?
 

If people purchase this software, it puts money into development, this surely helps the company hire developers, staff and move forward with their product!

Speeding up things like updates etc!

I'm going to steal a car now, then take it back to the owner when it needs an oil change!
 

ejgutierrez wrote :

If you want to have more privileges or you think you are a superior human, you can suggest to create a vip forum for licensed only people.


there is a separate forum for VIP users & no I don't think I am super human... unless you mean super human whom spent money on a product over 2 years ago when at the time it lacked some features I felt it needed.... ok then yes... super human.


ejgutierrez wrote :

do you think vdj is cracked because of trial version ?


yes. because people like you think the trial version is too short and you refuse to pay for something you use & inquire on how to improve stolen goods


ejgutierrez wrote :

do you think im the only one in the world with cracked version ?


yes... ummm... no silly... but what an idea... maybe we should create a separate forum for crack users so they can get support for the stolen goods!! I will post that in the super human VIP forums as an idea.


ejgutierrez wrote :

Do you have a licensed Microsoft Office pack ?


yes

ejgutierrez wrote :

Do you have a Windows XP or Vista licensed ?


yes

ejgutierrez wrote :

Do you have a license for Photoshop ?


yes

ejgutierrez wrote :

When you change the Office pack from xp to 2007 or similar you pay to Microsoft ?


change the office pack?



 

Upgrading Office XP -> Office 2007 costs $240, and yes, i payed that. Not one pirated software on this pc.
 

@ ejgutierrez
My friend, you have made your case pretty clear, you are a pirate.
You have no intention of paying of anything you can get for free based on the analogies you listed.
Your only mission here is to push for changes that will inevitably wind up on the net as the next cracked version.

We have tried to show you the way, but you stand your ground justifying the use of cracks.
You are sending the wrong message to other non licensed users with these examples.
This forum has policies which you have flirted with, but your posted intent by example is sort of in our face and will not be tolorated anymore.
Forum membership is not a "right", it's a privilege, if you continue this dialog your account will be locked.

Again, please buy the software if you wish to interact on the level with other professional users, the cost is minimal in comparison.
And yes, I paid for office 2007, Sony Vegas 8, a whole slew of dj software and different operating systems for 7 different computers.
 

Taken from Atomix web page:

Information Collection and Use

Atomix Productions is the sole owner of the information collected on this site. We will not sell, share, or rent this information to others in ways different from what is disclosed in this statement. Atomix Productions collects information from our users at several different points on our website.

Registration

In order to use the forum, and be part of Virtual DJ online community, the users have the opportunity to complete the registration form. During registration a user is required to give his email, and, optionnaly, other contact informations. This information is used to contact the user about the services on our site for which they have expressed interest, and to allow a more intense involvement in Virtual DJ community. It is optional for the user to provide demographic information , but encouraged so we can provide a more personalized experience on our site.

Is it a privilege to use the forums ? I dont think so. I dont justify the use of cracks. Im not the devil. I only point out customers compare, search, evaluate prices and make decissions. Again i would like to see some interesting and new ideas about vdj. About how to manage updates, skins, maps, bugs etc ... More information flowing between devs and customers in both directions. What are the weak points of vdj ?.


mp3jrick

We have tried to show you the way, but you stand your ground justifying the use of cracks.
You are sending the wrong message to other non licensed users with these examples.
This forum has policies which you have flirted with, but your posted intent by example is sort of in our face and will not be tolorated anymore.
Forum membership is not a "right", it's a privilege, if you continue this dialog your account will be locked.

All your ideas are censorship ? If you dont think like me ill lock your account. Well i had to register again with other name ? Again im mainly interested in reading posts about new versions and features and upgrades and technical problems. When vdj suits my needs ill buy it. . So i wanted to hear from you about new politics, future plan, roadmap, to do things. But you are only interested in censorship. If you want to lock my account you have the "privilege" not the right because i ve been educated and polished and treated everyone with respect. I dont support cracked versions.


 

Well,
time for a comment from another "cracked-using-pirate-like-demon-from-hell"-NoLicenseUser:
(Why don't you change the name from "no license user" to "cracked software user"? Seems like in your world there is no difference...)

I'm awaiting 5.1, too!
And the first thing I'll do when 5.1 is released, is buying an original from the online-shop.

My story?
I bought two Pioneer CDJ-400 and I'm now searching for the software that natively supports my CD-Players. I tested a lot with software from colleagues, but none satisfied me yet - but I keep tracking the rumors about VirtualDJ support the CDJ-400 natively in 5.1. If VirtualDJ brings that support first, I'll immediately buy a copy because I like VDJ!
But I won't spend a single dollar now for being insecure wheter an update will be released nor if it will support my CD-Players. Maybe VirtualDJ takes my 300 bucks of investments and spends it on the Bahamas instead of bringing a new version - making me look like a donkey...
 

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