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since Hercules is the only company offers a virtualdj with its products. it should not be a bad idea those two company (hercules and vdj) work together in one all in one controller for us. what do you think!!!!! a really just plug and play controller for us.I know your thinking what about the rmx. but i'm thinking a controller with bigger jogweels. somethig like the ns7 or vestax (especially made them for itch).
 
发表时间 Wed 02 Sep 09 @ 1:00 pm
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That would be the icing on the VDJ cake.

Add video mixing section, sound plugin effects banks right at your finger tips yah nice.

Joey....
 
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Regards!!!
 
Thats what i have been saying since last year. They should work together to create an all in one.
 
i hope the teamers told us if this is possible, I don't see why not, if numark and vestax have developed controllers for itch.hercules could make it for us (virtualdj users). We the virtualdj community deserve something like that. PLEASE MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD PEOPLE.This idea is possible,


teamers ,have you guys thinking about this.
 
People have been asking for this for about 3 years.
 
There might be more to it than the big "picture" we know. VDJ has been out for awhile now. VDJ has so much to offer. You have to think about it from the VDJ and the hardware company, business point of view that we are not told about :) Why did NS7 go with Serato why did so and so company go with...,. etc,.,

We will never know unless they want us to know. Some of it does make me mad, but eh., what can you we /do about it. You can gripe , whine about it on a forum, but what company from my experience "BESIDES" here will take it seriously??

Again this is IMO and will differ from anyone else. This topic could go on forever :)
 
It was Serato that went over to Numark to talk about bulding a controller.
 
dj marcel 1 wrote :
People have been asking for this for about 3 years.
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I guess we have to keep asking.
 
dj caliente wrote :
Serato went over to Numark to talk about bulding a controller.



VDJ could do the same with Hercules.

it just make me mad that the serato users believe they are better just because itch has a two dedicated controllers (NS7 and VESTAX).
 
Serato might of went and talked to Numark about a controller, but what has VDJ done, how do we know Serato went over and talked to them, how do we know VDJ has not, not trying to start a flame war, but each side has a story to it, and we will not know unless the "business wants us to know" :) We could go on forever. Don't you think after 3 yrs, asking for something, and another "product" gets it?

You have to have a "agreement between 2 parties for something to happen" How can you argue, ignore that fact?
 
well I'm almost sure that vdj went over numark to build a all in one but numak chosse itch(serato) if that's the case there are a lot of companys out there,no only numark, besides all numark products stop given the numark cue with it's products now they give tracktor and hercules is the only that still give vdj (not numark cue). well we certainly (all the vdj community)agree in this. i think we deserve it and worth it give it a try.
 
Why have Denon announced the DN-HC5000 to "exclusively work with Itch" when the DN-HC4500 already works perfectly with VDJ?

I guess Serato are getting in to bed with the major players, while Atomix are not getting involved.

Based on the fact that Atomix have apparently had legal issues with both Numark and PCDJ then that may be the answer. Sometimes these tie-ins are more trouble than they're worth.

Also, VDJ works well with a huge amount of controllers already so what's the point in having a "dedicated" one to do the same job?

The fact that VDJ is seen in some areas as being unstable where Serato is rock solid may be another issue.
 


JoeyKJ wrote :
That would be the icing on the VDJ cake.


That would be very limiting and totally opposite of what our users have been begging for over the years...can you say NS7?
We had thread after thread BEGGING for support of this unit.
If we were dedicated to Hercules or any other company exclusively, where would that leave the rest of our users?

DJ azen wrote :
i hope the teamers told us if this is possible, I don't see why not, if numark and vestax have developed controllers for itch.hercules could make it for us (virtualdj users).


Dedicated hardware does not satisfy the masses, not even close.
It has been discussed and is not the path Atomix has chosen and that will not change.
Ask anybody who has itch just how happy they are with it.

Caliente123 wrote :
It was Serato that went over to Numark to talk about bulding a controller.


Exactly
Why?
Because Serato realized there was more to this business than scratching vinyl and wanted a piece of the action sticking to their dedicated head in the sand policy.

DJ azen wrote :
well I'm almost sure that vdj went over numark to build a all in one but numak chosse itch(serato) if that's the case there are a lot of companys out there,no only numark, besides all numark products stop given the numark cue with it's products now they give tracktor and hercules is the only that still give vdj (not numark cue). well we certainly (all the vdj community)agree in this. i think we deserve it and worth it give it a try.


Where in the hell are you getting your propaganda from?

Did it ever dawn on you that Serato is desperate and cost was a factor?
Fact is, that Serato is FREE, so in comparison if we are not interested in GIVING AWAY OUR SOFTWARE, than that is the reason Itch came to be.
Nobody should develop software and give it away.
These companies sell HARDWARE and don't give two shits about software.
That is not the case with VDJ, we sell SOFTWARE and do not give it away.


Finally, Hercules is ENTRY LEVEL hardware.
Why on earth would Pro grade software want to be exclusive to that?

While I can appreciate the point of this thread, there is a lot of bad information being thrown around by people who are not in the know.

If we can stay away from that angle this thread will live, if not....click.
We do not want people being misinformed on our forum, please keep this in mind.
 
sorry but I don't get what the point of a dedicated controller would be??

I mean look at the NS7 an VCI-300 they have caused issued and headaches for everyone becasue they were trying to limit you to a specific software. and I mean VDJ can use ANY controller now, its the most user friendly software iv seen and gives you unlimited possibilities, custom skins, plug-ins, video, samples, and now controllers.

Would this just be for barging rights against the serato users???

I mean I am working on mapping a Rockband guitar to work with VDJ just because I can lol do that with other software.


dedicated controller sure could be cool but it wouldn't be dedicated for long people always crack and hack things to work with what they want. why force someone to use your product? its only going to make them unhappy in the end.

just my thoughts on the subject
 
mp3jrick wrote :
It has been discussed and is not the path Atomix has chosen and that will not change.


ok that's the answer we need,so all in one controller for us is not posible.

thank you.

P.D: I didn't mean to get angry the teamers. this just something that we really want. but since mp3jrick said that's not the path of atomix
now we know.

thaks mp3jrick
 
What about the dj's here that don't use controllers? Serato has NS7 because Serato's timecode engine is reliable, solid and stable. While VDJ engine is not. Question to all that use controllers, would you want that to happen to you?

Syberman
 
Guys, we hear you.
We meet every week to discuss and improve on the problems that surface, every single one of them.

Although the specific solutions or goals may not be discussed in our forum, we want the same stability and features you all want, we are dj's also most of us.

Don't take my comments the wrong way, I just wanted to clear up the misinformation.

And yes, the time code engine is damn close to the top of the list at this point.

Keep in mind that it would be an easy task to lock and dedicate hardware to the software, but as you now can see Serato branched off to tap the controller world for a reason, but still in a limited way.
We do not feel that limiting our users or forcing them to use what we want rather than what they want is the way to go.

Peace and gig hard

r
 
Vestax, Numark, Denon.. They are working with serato because the software is rock solid in performance. Serato has less features but it works.. You can't deny that. Virtual dj is a great program but you have to do some configuration. After doing configuration, you still get some things that pop up. The software has to be plug n play perfect. Nobodys like to deal with lots of configuration. Right now serato is like the iphone.. Lots of companies designing products or things to work for the software, Time code records in different colors from other companies that are compatable, Midi Controllers, Laptop bags, Cases, Keyboard short cut stickers Etc... All these companies are jumping in because they know that majority of djs are using this software. The NS7.. From the time it came out until now... They are still in back order. They come in and fly of the shelves....

All this is because serato's strategy was to design something simple that works rock solid. If Virtual dj was rocksolid, they would have the same fame.. We all want this for virtual dj. We want stabilty, The features should be the second thing in mind... These topics are great to talk about so we can be reminded about what is out there.

I have used Virtual DJ, Numark Virtual Vinyl with the following.

HC4500
3700s
CDJ 1000mk3
Turntables
Dac 3
Hercules RMX
 
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