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Topic: VDJ at the club == Disaster! What went wrong?

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Okies. I have been practicing with VDJ at home for about a month in prep and I though I had brought it through the ringer but I WAS WRONG. Here is my setup and what happened and if anyone has some insight or idea I would like to know. I have another set Saturday but I'm not sure I am bringing VDJ out.

A few hours before the club I did a full equipment and sound check at home on my monitors and spun a warm up 45 minute set and had no problems.
I went dwn to the club at nine and had a drink and then set up in the booth and did a sound check. I adjusted myself on the master board as my highs were a little up but after testing 4 songs we were all good. I activated the locked screen saver on my computer all I did and went down until it was my set.
At about 1:45 I went up and prepped and at just a little before 2AM I took over. 4 songs later someone finally came up to inform me that my entire set has been muffled and that they were only getting the beat essentially. I turned up the monitors all the way and noticed it WAS really poor quality audio. I tweaked the sound to emphasize the highs and mids as much as I could but the actual audio boing pushed out just sounded like CRAP. After I got a relief DJ I immediately quit VDJ and opened up Traktor, (The program I have been trying to switch off of) and I had zero sound quality problems, in fact I had to turn my highs back down to just the way they were during sound check to get everything sounding just right. The entire experience was massively embarrassing as the guest DJ at this club.

I am using a MacBook 2.16 GHz with 3 gigs of Ram, a Stanton Final Scratch Open as the sound card and a Numark Total Control for a controlling interface.

Where did I go wrong here? Can VDJ not handle being left open and idle? Can VDJ just not be left open for too long without having audio degradation problems?


I'd also like to note tat the clock in VDJ never matches the clock on my computer, the times on my playlists have huge gaps in them. It's the weirdest bug but only mildly annoying.


(Cross posted from the mac forums since it does not get a lot of reads)
 

发表时间 Mon 14 Jul 08 @ 1:23 pm

I feel your pain :(..

Can you tell us what your soundcard settings were within VDJ and in the soundcard software? (if applicable), ASIO or non ASIO? And also how did your performance settings look?
 

DJEMF wrote :
Where did I go wrong here? Can VDJ not handle being left open and idle? Can VDJ just not be left open for too long without having audio degradation problems?


Sorry to inform you, but there has been numerous reports on this board with an
issue of sound degradation over time. It does not happen to all apperently, so it's
probabaly a system related or (somehow) corrupt software installation.

On my previous system, I experienced a constant loss of high freq., which I couldn't
get rid of even with the reinstallation (also older version of VDj).

I cannot give any personal experience, as I mostly use VDj up to one hour (in free
time, not professionaly). So I'd try a software reinstallation in your case (it solved
my issue with crackling of asio drivers once).
 

I am assuming your using the MAC Version or Mac running VISTA? We need to know these things in order to help. I use a PC, and everything runs/sounds great. I am using the Ecler EVO5 with its buit in sound card ASIO.
 

I'm not a computer expert, but I doubt the software decides that at a certain time, it is gonna start to degrade the sound. We all have the same software. The only difference, is the machines we use. I play up to 15 hour sets, and have never had the sound change on me. Of course I don't use a MAC. Do you have the keyboard shortcuts activated? Does Mac have any power saving settings? Is it possible someone else touched something, while you were away from the booth? I just do not see the software deciding it is gonna puck with you, and not everybody else. What, it knows you were a bad boy? It worked all month, and during your setup, but went on strike, just as you were about to go on? This is not the Twilight Zone. Then again, maybe it is where you are.
 

It can be your PC, or soundcard...
Possibly bad ram? Or drivers?

Have never had this happen to me at least, and I use VDJ at gigs several times a week, for years...

(but, not running the mac version though, so can be a bug)
 

Not sure if it could be the EQ in the skin got messed up... and maybe now you using a skin without a EQ ???

Sometimes its something that simple.
 

man that sucks...

4 years, no problem man... one time forgot to shut the program after setup and 4 hours later it still worked flawlessly. that thats on a 7 yr old dell with 512 ram!!!
 

Untill we know what version he's using we are just speculating.
 

A Man and His Music wrote :
I play up to 15 hour sets,

Very interesting.......the only thing I can think of here is you play in a neurosurgery O.R, you surely have my vote for guy I'd most like to have a beer with on this forum.
DJEMF wrote :
I turned up the monitors all the way and noticed it WAS really poor quality audio. I tweaked the sound to emphasize the highs and mids as much as I could but the actual audio boing pushed out just sounded like CRAP.

Were you using an external mixer with the final scratch, and if so which one?................There are issues with some mixers not handling sound processing very well at high dbs, and equally as well, the quality of your audio files is as important if not more as it is magnified with amplification. That could be one of the many reasons this could be happening. Otherwise
listen2 wrote :
Not sure if it could be the EQ in the skin got messed up... and maybe now you using a skin without a EQ ???

Sometimes its something that simple.
makes a lot of sense to me.
 

I already posted the fix in his other thread.
 

Sorry, yes I am running the latest 5.0.8 on Mac OS X 10.5.4
 

A Man and His Music wrote :
I'm not a computer expert, but I doubt the software decides that at a certain time, it is gonna start to degrade the sound. We all have the same software. The only difference, is the machines we use. I play up to 15 hour sets, and have never had the sound change on me. Of course I don't use a MAC. Do you have the keyboard shortcuts activated? Does Mac have any power saving settings? Is it possible someone else touched something, while you were away from the booth? I just do not see the software deciding it is gonna puck with you, and not everybody else. What, it knows you were a bad boy? It worked all month, and during your setup, but went on strike, just as you were about to go on? This is not the Twilight Zone. Then again, maybe it is where you are.


To be fair I never left it up and running for 5+ hours in my testing. i have received the suggestion of changing my audio decoder to help fix this possibly known issue
 



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