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i'm sick of testing tuning, one day my TCV is awesome the next its way off base, F$&# it. I'm gonna try to think of a way to make my turntables midi conrtolable, so i don't have to worry about this damn tcv shit....

Sorry, blowing off some steam..

Any suggestions?
 
发表时间 Thu 03 Apr 08 @ 1:58 am
dj schmidty wrote :
Any suggestions?

Yes , put your problem here , because tou are saying nothing .
 
I was drunk when I worte this hahahhaa...

What I meant is that I want to some how make my turntable midi mapable so I don't have to worry about you know, "is my needle correct for TCV? where do I ground it? maybe its the arm? maybe its the phonos?" Just seems like I can never get it to ALWAYS work 100% the way it should, and when I set it up its always a crap shoot. i'm just thinking in engineering terms how it would be possible to make my turbtables midi mapable.
 
I think you are drinking again ;-)
 
honestly buy some pioneers cdj 800's if thats what you want. I'm using a u46 with stanton 520's and mine works fine,

there has to be some reason yours are not 100%

Probably the most simple hack i can think of for midi is take an optical mouse and use the optical sensor, it then would have to be mounted some how underneath the turntable platter. The motor could not be powered on and would only trigger with platter movements. However seeing you have issues with just the basic TC configuration i would not suggest playing mad scientist either.

Why not explain exactly what is wrong.
 
Remember that little clip-on gadget that Vestax made for their cd players? A little sensor wheel that clipped on the side of a turntable and tracked the movements, rather like a bicycle dynamo? Somebody should make a midi-compatible version....
 
Eh, I don't trust anything thats light based... Only because when you in a club, theres all kinds of lights flying around, and anything like that could throw the sensor off. THat in my opinion would NOT be the way to go. No i'm thinking a little more engeneerish (Is that a word?) What about an actual motor like a jog wheel on a mouse, but without the clicks and that would send midi signals

(Shit, just tried something like this, problem is that compared to the small and weight-less needle, theres no way to acurately get it to track the record...)

(Hmmmmmmmm, the mad scientist is at it again.. MMMuuuahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa)
 
My suggestion would be to sit tight. I think there is a whole batch of MIDI turntables on the horizon. Stanton has already come out with one and hopefully other companies will follow suit. I feel ya though on wanting full turntables with MIDI. I currently use Numark CDX's with timecode CD's and it works pretty good but it's not perfect.
 
dj schmidty wrote :
(Hmmmmmmmm, the mad scientist is at it again.. MMMuuuahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa)


You want a project? Try this one

2 web cams
2 vinyls that are of no further use for you.

Take a protractor, and model paint

Mark the vinyls every Degree (360 times) And use the model paint to make the marks white (So the web cam can see them better)

Place the web cams on top of the Vinyls so the lens is facing down at the Vinyls (marked side up)

Enable web-cam scratching in VDJ (it's still there) and go to town.










P.S. This is NOT a serious project suggestion
 
You could use a Tascam TT-M1 and write a MIDI mapper for it ;-)

TT-M1
 
pern wrote :
You could use a Tascam TT-M1 and write a MIDI mapper for it ;-)

TT-M1


D'oh! That's the thingy I was talking about, it was a Tascam, not a Vestax... my bad...
 
I have looked a little of doing a MIDI VDJ enabled cheap clone of that.
And it's not that hard.

But i don't think that there would be any interest of it, or ?
 
Hmm, I mean i guess that would work, but what sort of signal does it give out? I mean its a proprietary language i'd assume that translates to the "TASCAM" cd player. It even gets power from the cd player, so its meant ot work with the cd-player. Sure I could probably get it to be powered by something else, but theres no telling how accurate that thing really is.

Worth a look into though, i'm gonna google it up right now...................

(Sure wish it was just a straight midi device, that would make a WORLD of difference)
 
Pern - any idea how that tascam thing works then? Is the wheel connected to a rotary optical encoder, or is it some kind of voltage sensing, connected to a dynamo? How would you go about building a midi board for that? You thinking of starting from scratch, or modifying an existing device?
 
prob have to mod an existing one. Found some interesting stuff about this though, its quite responsive actually.

Thing is, its powered by its own proprietary unit, BUT the cable that comes out of it "Looks" like either a midi port, or a ps2 (mouse/keyboard) port. I know that the ps2 cable can support power, not sure about a midi connection.
 
I think you want the Denon DN-HS5500.
Its the worlds first 7" direct drive motor with MIDI platter control.
 
No.

Definetly not. I love Denon products, I've used denon my whole (CD) career. i'm way over cds now, and i'm strictly using 12" turntables (IE Technics 1200s)

For what its worth, i give the middle finger to RANE, and i use a dn-x100 for scratching (Frickin awesome mixer for the price)
 
there is no way in the world an x100 would compare to a ttm56.

I had an x300 and i loved it but the mixer has some sort of decay issue with the fader curve (not the fader itself) it does not deliver crisp cuts. I'm not sure about the x100 but they were built in a similar fashion. Beyond that i think the mixer is built like a tank and is every bit worth the cash!! I know the x1500 had a firmware upgrade to fix this issue. You can read the review on scratchworx
http://www.skratchworx.com/reviews/dn-x100.php


 
True that the dn-x100 isn't really classified a scratch mixer, but lemme tell you from owning one, the x-fader is SWEET, and really light, the up and down faders are adjustable just like the rane mixer, and yea it doesn't have the name with it, but its infact a NICE mixer to scratch on (For me anyways)

I can do just about any scratch on this mixer with no probs, but there was a SLIGHT learning curve, as the review says it does have some getting used to with the x-fader. I say one week, then i'm pumpin out chirps like nothin!!!

Anyway, back to the real topic here....

Right now i'm in the poor house, but once I get back on my feet I plan on either buying one of those tascam units and seeing what I can find out, or just make one myself!!
 
dj schmidty wrote :
...I plan on either buying one of those tascam units and seeing what I can find out, or just make one myself!!


I wouldn't get too excited about the Tascam gubbins - I'd pretty much guarantee there's no midi circuitry inside it - I expect the sensor is connected straight to the cable that comes out of it, and all the control circuitry will be inside the CD deck that it connects to... making it interface with VDJ is likely to be a MAJOR electronics project!
 
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