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Topic: Southern California Wildfires

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Thought and Prayers go out to anyone that lives in or has families in Southern California who are caught up in the wildfire situation. Hearing a lot about this on the news. Looks terrible over there.
 

发表时间 Wed 24 Oct 07 @ 7:38 am
My prayers are also with the families over there going through the hard times:)
 

Anyone live in Atlantia, Georgia? You guys seriously ran out of water??? The drought is that bad? I live in South Florida. Our back up supply of water is Lake Okachobee and it is 5 feet below normal and is going to get bad. i literally heard on TV this morning, people woke up to take a shower or get some water, when they turned on the facet and shower, nothing came out. The lake where you get your water is gone.
 

I live in England and we don't get those type of fires over here, seen film clips and pictures on the news it look's terrible. Fire is one of the worst things on the planet, it's got a mind of it's own when it takes hold.

My thoughts goes out to everyone court up in it over there.

And to the fire service, keep fighting it and you will win.

Jimmy b




 

whats crazy when all this is going down....so many people losing homes...politians have the nerve to start battiling over it. I duno if people know this but that whole area has been known to be a problem...its just the " " "" "" "" to be in charge chose to ignore it.

but i will not reply to politics here as thats not what i'm here for..but i did have a little rant (& thats all u will get out of me)
 

I haven't seen clear sky since Sunday.

This situatoin really does suck out here. The fire that is nearest to my house is the Santiago Canyon fire. The police have now caught a suspect who apparently has admitted to starting that fire by strategically igniting 3 separate fires in close proximity of eachother.

I've since left the area and have come to stay at my parents house in Apple Valley for a few days. Everything smells burnt, even all the way up here.

What's worse is that I have 2 outdoor gigs this Friday and Saturday in Orange County, in Newport Beach and Laguna Niguel respectively.

Thanks for the concern from you all though. My thoughts and prayers go out to the many that have been directly affected so far and the many more than undoubtedly will.

Of course, I'm hoping that I won't be one of them ... along with anewsome and other members of our VDJ/VV community who may be local as well.


- VT ConQuest
(Visual Turnatblist)
 

(Sarcasim off) Hope you have Fire insurance (scarcasim on)
 

A friend of ours lives out in San Diego. The last time we talked to him, he said that the smoke cloud was about forty miles from the apartment he JUST moved into :(

As far as the politicians go, they can just jump in and help fight the fires anytime, and leave the arguments for some other time :P
 

I remember when the historical Colorado wildfire was hear. I couldn't breath properly and my daughter who has asthma was really affected. The smoke cloud was so thick that is looked like a storm was there... cloud cover about a 1/4 mile above the houses. I wish everyone well in california but I think most can't phathom the actual affects of this. Yes, on the news it look bad but being in this type of situation and the fires are in sight range is very scarry.
 

fatkatzdj wrote :
I couldn't breath properly and my daughter who has asthma was really affected. The smoke cloud was so thick that is looked like a storm was there


Yeah, I'll see what it's like down there in the Santiago Canyon fire area soon enough as I have to go back tonight. Even all the way up here in Apple Valley, the sky's are grey with patches of black.

fatkatzdj wrote :
Yes, on the news it look bad but being in this type of situation and the fires are in sight range is very scarry.


Yeah, that's why I left on Sunday night. I'm used to the smoke from the fires, and the ash that falls all over the place, but this time I could see the actual flames from the base of the base of the fire.

Too close for comfort.
 

fire's like that spread quicker than you can run away from them! if it has been started on purpose then that's just stupid why would anyone do that?
 

Not for nothing, but am I missing something? Let me see if I get this right. This has been happening on average, every three years, for the last couple of hundred years. This is like waiting for the leap year, we know it's coming. It only takes one lightening strike, one cigarette, one volleyball hitting the grill, or one arsonist with one match. Is there a light bulb going off in anybodies head yet? Are you walking around South Central or the South Bronx, with hundred dollar bills hanging out of your pocket? What do you think will happen? There is a reason I don't put my hand in the cage, to pet the lion. We all take chances everyday, and these people took a chance when they moved there. I think the odds are way to high. The odds are way to high when I play the lottery, but if I don't win, I don't lose everything I own, including my life. Now, excuse me while I build a house, at the base of this volcano, it only erupts once every three years.

Now some of you may say Rick, that is some cold shit. Well, this is one of the times where I am able to separate my feelings from fact. The empathy I feel for the loss these Americans have suffered, does not change the facts. Besides, this is my fact post.
 

@ AMAHM
The facts are correct, however, should people not build in locations for the " just in case" factor. I think these thoughts work with mudslide locations but cutting out 100s of coastal land and at least a 100 miles inland that should not be developed.
 

I remember the bad flooding on the Mississippi in the early 90s and saying almost the same thing AMaHM is saying. Flood planes, mud slides areas, and other geographical areas are not suitable for building. But developers keep trying to push back Mother Nature...and eventually, like all women, she is going to get PISSED and take it back.

Like AMaHm also said..I feel bad for those suffering and loosing all their property....and my prayers go out to them.
 

uhhhh i feel bad for all the people forced to evacuate ... but still , at some point we need to get smarter and not develop in these very dangerous , very known , areas ........

i was born in jax fla , and grew up in the area flattened by hurricane Andrew ... so i do know a little about such things ...." you can't fool with mother nature" ......
 

uuuuuuhhhhh i know i must be the great ecological Nostradamus ........ but why don't we make dangerous areas off limits to residential development , and instead put all the " not in my backyard " stuff THERE ???...... the rail line , nuclear plant , prison, oil refinery , lawyers , politicians.......??????
 

becasue unfotunatly the dangerous places are also pretty places.
 

fatkatzdj wrote :
@ AMAHM
The facts are correct, however, should people not build in locations for the " just in case" factor.


Every three years, for a couple hundred years, is not a "just in case" factor, it's called clockwork. As I said before, we all take chances everyday. Every time I get in my car, I am taking a chance. However, I don't have an accident every three years, and the ones I have been in, I have walked away. I did not lose everything I own. I don't play in clubs, that have a lot of violence and gun play. It's hard for me to make a mix, when I have to dodge bullets. I had an audition at a club one night. When I got there, I knew I was not gonna work there, just because of the neighborhood it was in. How many of you would work in a club, where the DJ was shot at, once every three years? I'm talking just shot at, some times they miss. Sometimes the DJ is just wounded, two DJs have been paralyzed, a couple have been killed. I'm sorry, but the odds are just too great for me to work in that club. When we know of the danger, and make a decision to put ourselves in the middle of it, we have to accept the outcome.


You guys remember the 60 or 65 year old women, that protested the federal governments rules on BASE jumping, by jumping off an antenna or something like that. Her parachute never opened. I am not willing to take that kind of chance.

 

chucknorrisyouwimps wrote :
uuuuuuhhhhh i know i must be the great ecological Nostradamus ........ but why don't we make dangerous areas off limits to residential development , and instead put all the " not in my backyard " stuff THERE ???...... the rail line , nuclear plant , prison, oil refinery , lawyers , politicians.......??????


LMAO @ Chuck..great thinking....AMaHM does have a point. I live near a river, have for my entire life. Everyone who has been here more than a decade knows where the floodplains are. The last five years developers have moved in and started building on the same floodplains. We are all waiting for the new residents to complain. They cannot even get flood insurance, that should tel them something. Mother Nature will win the argument every time, so why test her?
 



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