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apopsisdjPRO InfinitySenior staffMember since 2003
Meta apo kali ereyna agoras (...aporyfthikan A&H, Pio.., Vestax klp) kataliksame kai paraggeilame gia to magazi pou douleyo ayton ton mikti.
http://www.thomann.de/gr/denon_dn_x1100.htm

Pisteyo oti einai poly kali agora, xoris "bells and whistles" (diladi perita pragmata), poly kali sxediasi-katharo layout,
kai oti exei epano to xreiazomaste... 8 line in...
Curves rythmizomenes kai gia ta volumes kai gia to crosfader, (poly simantiko xaraktiristiko gia mena pleon), mono switch apo piso, klp

Tha sas po perissotera kai entyposeis otan ton doulepso stin praksi.

Kai kathotin ypostiriktis Denon ...
Denon - Pioneer = 1 : 0
 

发表时间 Fri 26 Mar 10 @ 10:25 am
djdadPRO InfinityDevelopment ManagerMember since 2005
poly kali epilogi.

Ton Behringer midi DDM400 ton aperipses me ti mia?
 

发表时间 Fri 26 Mar 10 @ 11:50 am
apopsisdjPRO InfinitySenior staffMember since 2003
djdad wrote :

Ton Behringer midi DDM400 ton aperipses me ti mia?

Eimaste 2 dj pou eprepe na apofasisoume.... stin arxi mou ton proteine o synadelfos....
Toy leo aston den eimai sigouros, thelei kai poly diabasma, einai kai poly fortomenos..
Meta to ksanaskeftika, tou leo.. mipos na blepame kai ekeinon ton Behringer... mou leei ase, poios tha diabazei to manual...
 

发表时间 Fri 26 Mar 10 @ 12:19 pm
PANOSVPRO InfinityMember since 2007
sofh epilogh...telos!!
 

发表时间 Fri 26 Mar 10 @ 12:43 pm
o DDM400 einai o kalyteros mikths ths behringer alla ayto dn leei kati.
einai apla poly kalos g ta lefta tou. fysika dn exei sxesh me epaggelmatikous miktes se hxo k poiothta.

an xreiazetai kapoios mikth gia to spiti tou einai idanikos... alla mexri ekei!
 

发表时间 Fri 26 Mar 10 @ 3:33 pm
apopsisdjPRO InfinitySenior staffMember since 2003
O miktis irthe kai paizo idi 2 meres me ayton... !!!

POIOTITA KATASKEYHS + AISTHISH + HXOS = SUPER

To Eq "akouei" apisteyta, exontas 2 kommatia se sync, me poly mikres metaboles px sto "hi" mporeis na pareis poly diaforetika apotelemata.
Ta Eq knobs einai "stibara" oxi san kati allous miktes (akoma kai Pioneer) pou einai san ksexarbalomena kai les oti tha spasoun...
Epeiseis kleidonoun sti mesi, (poly symantiko), kai ta gain+eq xamilonoun mexri -apeiro, diladi me kleisto gain, kai eq's svinei entelos to kanali, kai mou aresei etsi. Oi curves gai ta faders+crosfader einai epeisis apisteyta leitourgikes, kai mporeis na rythmiseis to x-fader sou na bgazeis teleia perasmata -xoris px to gnosto bythisma pou kanoun kapoia alla x-faders sto kentro.(..kataramena A&H)....- kai gia opoiodipote eidos mousikis.
Px epaiza house simera kai allaza mono me to x-fader.. Gia hip-hop/scratch to bazeis terma deksia kai kanei apotomo cut.

Mporo na po pos apo olous tous miktes pou exo doulepsei ta teleytaia xronia se magazia, i pou douleyo kai tora se kapoia magazia pou pao part time, ..Pioneer djm500, A&H Xone 62, Vestax klp.. aytos einai h protimisi mou kai me diafora. Ergaleio.

To mono arnitiko, an mporeis na to peis etsi, einai oti den exei ensomatomena effect, ayto pou fainetai gia effect einai mia pliris monada send-return me on/off kai level ga na syndeseis eksoteriko effect typou kaos-pad. Den xreiazomouna effects etst kai alliws..
Kai o enisxytis akoustikon, tha mporouse na einai ligo pio dynatos, an kai den eixa kanena problima me ta dika mou akoustika.

Bathmologia 9.5 sta 10 ..(gia na min balo 10)

ps... na xame kai ta Denon 3700 me to moter.. anti gia ta 200aria ta pioneer...
 

发表时间 Tue 30 Mar 10 @ 8:38 pm
apopsisdjPRO InfinitySenior staffMember since 2003
A .. ksexasa na po gia to "Matrix" sta inputs... patenta tis Denon.
Katarxin pernei mexri ...8 lines... afou kai ta phono exoun switch phono/line...
Loipon me ola ta inputs syndemena, i me kapoia apo ayta...
Aplos epilegeis kanali, kai epilegeis input...
px, emena mou aresei na douleyo ta channels 1-2 kai o allos dj sta 3-4, i na rthei kapoios allos pou thelei ta 1-3 gia kapoio logo, kai as ypothesoume oti kai oi 3 paizoume me ta idia cd i paizoume me tin idia karta ixou..., den xreiazetai na mpei xeri piso,.. epilegeis kanalia kai eisodous... kalo ;
 

发表时间 Tue 30 Mar 10 @ 8:52 pm
giwrgo gia ta ipotasiometra den mas eipes ....vriskoume antallaktika? xa?
 

发表时间 Wed 31 Mar 10 @ 2:20 am
apopsis wrote :
O miktis irthe kai paizo idi 2 meres me ayton... !!!

POIOTITA KATASKEYHS + AISTHISH + HXOS = SUPER

To Eq "akouei" apisteyta, exontas 2 kommatia se sync, me poly mikres metaboles px sto "hi" mporeis na pareis poly diaforetika apotelemata.
Ta Eq knobs einai "stibara" oxi san kati allous miktes (akoma kai Pioneer) pou einai san ksexarbalomena kai les oti tha spasoun...
Epeiseis kleidonoun sti mesi, (poly symantiko), kai ta gain+eq xamilonoun mexri -apeiro, diladi me kleisto gain, kai eq's svinei entelos to kanali, kai mou aresei etsi.


Apo thn empeiria mou ta dennon xalarwnoun (arketa) sta knobs tous me ton kairo kai an ta liwseis (egw paizw polu me knobs para me volume faders).Den 3erw an sta kainouria montela exoun alla3ei kati giauto. To kleidwma omws paramenei. Pantos ta miktakia pou bgazoun mporei na mhn exoun mpixlimpidia alla einai skuloi. An deite palia magazia kati miktes pou exoun piei 328239423 pota kai 3247239842 tsigara kai akoma douleuoun.

ton ddm den ton exw piasei sta xeria mou gia na exw apopsh. Apo tis fotografies gluko kai fortwmeno ton blepw. I like ;)
 

发表时间 Wed 31 Mar 10 @ 2:45 am
apopsis wrote :
O miktis irthe kai paizo idi 2 meres me ayton... !!!


ps... na xame kai ta Denon 3700 me to moter.. anti gia ta 200aria ta pioneer...


lol :D
 

发表时间 Wed 31 Mar 10 @ 2:48 am
djdadPRO InfinityDevelopment ManagerMember since 2005
Giorgo to ikseres oti o Behringer DDM exei Eq-Crossfaders?
Episis kati pou den iksera einai oti ta faders einai optical, dld ousiastika den erxetai se epafi tipota, ara den xalane.

Arxizw kai ton zaxarwnw. Ase pou exei pesei kai i timi tou, eftase 300 euros.
 

发表时间 Sat 10 Apr 10 @ 8:57 pm
apopsisdjPRO InfinitySenior staffMember since 2003
djdad wrote :
Giorgo to ikseres oti o Behringer DDM exei Eq-Crossfaders?
Episis kati pou den iksera einai oti ta faders einai optical, dld ousiastika den erxetai se epafi tipota, ara den xalane.

Arxizw kai ton zaxarwnw. Ase pou exei pesei kai i timi tou, eftase 300 euros.


Ta eq crossfaders den an ennoeis ta koumpakia dipla den mporei na einai leitourgika ... omos me ebales se peirasmo..
Eida kapoia video gia tis midi dynatotites tou (+ta ypoloipa) + oti sta video fainetai pio stibaros kai aksiopistos apo oti nomiza, kai arxisa na lygizo..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiAR1d_eKcc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv1OEkZRTm4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtBpGyivfLw
 

发表时间 Sun 11 Apr 10 @ 8:36 am
djdadPRO InfinityDevelopment ManagerMember since 2005
Apo oti mporesa na katalavw apo ena videaki pou eixa dei, patwntas auta koumpakia EQ (high,mid,low) pou einai aristera (isws kai deksia) apo to crossfsader, kanoun to crossfader eq-crossfader. Twra pws kai an auto voleuei...einai ena themataki.

Pantws gia mena einai stin Wish List.
 

发表时间 Sun 11 Apr 10 @ 9:54 am
sigoura kalos einai, alla egw 8a protimousa n kanw ayth th douleia (EQ crossfade) me eswteriko mikth k kapoio midi controller.

mn xegelieste ap ayta pou lene sxetika me thn poiothta tou. einai sigoura kalyteros apo allous miktes ths behrninger, alla oxi k tpt idiaitero.
k epeidh logika exete synh8isei malista n paizete me akriva "paixnidakia" (pioneer, A&H, denon... :P ) mallon 8 apogohteyteite apo ton hxo tou DDM4000.
genika, einai poly kalos, alla gia home-use.

an to pareis kapoios, as mas pei k aytos liga logia apo prwto xeri pantws!
 

发表时间 Sun 11 Apr 10 @ 12:09 pm
djdadPRO InfinityDevelopment ManagerMember since 2005
leonidassr wrote :
sigoura kalos einai, alla egw 8a protimousa n kanw ayth th douleia (EQ crossfade) me eswteriko mikth k kapoio midi controller.

Ma einai 100% midi mapped o miktis, pou simainei oti mporeis na mappareis ta eq-crossfaders na einai internal (tou software)

leonidassr wrote :
mn xegelieste ap ayta pou lene sxetika me thn poiothta tou. einai sigoura kalyteros apo allous miktes ths behrninger, alla oxi k tpt idiaitero.
k epeidh logika exete synh8isei malista n paizete me akriva "paixnidakia" (pioneer, A&H, denon... :P ) mallon 8 apogohteyteite apo ton hxo tou DDM4000.
genika, einai poly kalos, alla gia home-use.

an to pareis kapoios, as mas pei k aytos liga logia apo prwto xeri pantws!


apo osa exw diavasei (giati proswpiki apopsi den exw) einai auto pou lene best value for money. Kai epeidi stin epoxi mas to money einai poly ypologisimo gi auto kai vazw psila ton DDM. Fantazomai oti o antistoixos Pioneer pou exei yperdiplasia lefta tha einai kalyteros, alla den mporeis na tous valeis stin idia katigoria apo ti stigmi pou exei tetoia diafora stin timi. Einai san na sygkrineis to Golf me to Mercedes. O ypopsifios agorastis oso kai na goustarei tin poiotita kataskeuis tis Mercedes einai logiko na kataliksei sto Golf, kai na afisei ti Mercedes gia ta trela tou oneira.
Genika pote den mpika sti diadikasia na agorasw akriva mixanimata (Pioneer klp) giati pisteuw oti to timima einai poly megalytero apo auto pou prosferoun. Fantazomai oti sta clubs me megalo budget den mpainoun kan stin diadikasia na skeftoun kati tetoio, alla edw milame gia personal use.

Tha prepei omws telika na pw oti aksizei sygxaritiria stin Behringer pou prospathei na apotinaksei tin tampela medium quality proxwrwntas stin paragwgi enos tetoiou mixanimatos, otan alles etairies me pio "poiotika" xarismata oute kan exoun mpei ston kopo na to skeftoun. Auto deixnei oti den tha argisei o kairos pou i Behringer tha anevei psilotera apo kei pou einai.

 

发表时间 Sun 11 Apr 10 @ 4:46 pm
aledjoPRO InfinityMember since 2005
afou einai midi, pos to syndeoume ston ypologisti?
den exei thyres usb.
arage poia tha einai i antapokrisi pou tha exei me to virtualdj px ta faders?
tha einai san paizeis me kanoniko mikti?
 

发表时间 Sun 11 Apr 10 @ 5:06 pm
djdadPRO InfinityDevelopment ManagerMember since 2005
Exei Midi Out kai Midi In . Ara mporeis.
 

发表时间 Sun 11 Apr 10 @ 5:49 pm
kalos o paralilismos dad alla mhn 3exnas oti eite golf exeis eite mercendes an ta xrhsimopoieis gia na phgaineis mono gia tsigara sto periptero sthn telikh den exoun diafora.

Kai ta perisotera barakia sthn ellada na mhn pw ti hxo exoyn apo thn apopsi twn telikwn alla kuriws twn hxeiwn.Opote ti suzhtame. Giati na pareis ena ergaleio twn 700 eurw.
 

发表时间 Sun 11 Apr 10 @ 6:04 pm
aledjo wrote :
afou einai midi, pos to syndeoume ston ypologisti?
den exei thyres usb.
arage poia tha einai i antapokrisi pou tha exei me to virtualdj px ta faders?
tha einai san paizeis me kanoniko mikti?



Des meta to 1:00
 

发表时间 Sun 11 Apr 10 @ 6:10 pm
apopsisdjPRO InfinitySenior staffMember since 2003
leonidassr wrote :

mn xegelieste ap ayta pou lene sxetika me thn poiothta tou. einai sigoura kalyteros apo allous miktes ths behrninger, alla oxi k tpt idiaitero.
k epeidh logika exete synh8isei malista n paizete me akriva "paixnidakia" (pioneer, A&H, denon... :P ) mallon 8 apogohteyteite apo ton hxo tou DDM4000.
genika, einai poly kalos, alla gia home-use.


Prosopika den eimai katholou fan oute tis Pioneer oute tis A&H.... eimai ligo tis Denon kai eimai genika me ayton pou einai me to meros mou (diladi me tin tsepi mou) kai me sygkekrimmena montela (para me etairies) pou kanoun ti douleia, xoris na me desmeboun me kapoio tropo.
Exo Behringer konsola 1202 apo to 1995 kai douleyei mia xara akoma, kai i timi tis itan to 1/3 tis antoistoixis Mackie.
Exo Behringer Bcf-2000 me motorized faders epeisis sto 1/5 tis timis tou Mackie control kai sto 1/3 enos Tascam me motorized faders.
Exo dei Pioneer ypertimimena kai A&H na xalane i na einai sxediasmena na xalane... (px ta aloustika tis Pio...)
A&H xone62 pou ta cue buttons ektos tou oti xalane, ta patas kai akougetai sto master, pragma aparadekto gia toso akribo mikti.
Enas filos ilektronikos... (metaxy allwn..) me IQ ligo pio kato apo tou Ainstain (kai den eimai sigouros gia ayto), mou leei pos anoikse ton A&H 62 kai ta hlektronika tou einai san dekaetias tou 80... ton pisteyo.. dagkoto..
Ayto bebaia den symainei pos ola ta A&H einai etsi, apla na katariptoume kapoious mythous.

O logos pou egrapsa ayto to thread gia ton Denon einai oti eixame problima kyrios me ton ixo sto magazi pou telika ofeilontan ston mikti...
3 atoma + to afentiko, ayto to symperasma bgalame...
Eixame ena 3-kanalo numark..3050, dokimasame kapoious allous, kai mexri na erthei o Denon eixame prosorina enan Behringer 700...
Na sas po oti o Behringer akougotan mia xara, kai an ekseresoume to sxetika xamilo master kai ta potensiometra pou exoun poly lathos curve kai den rythmizetai, o miktis stathike aksioprepws... kai blepo oti o 4000 einai alli katigoria me optika potensiometra kai button me konti diadromi (typou Pioneer)...
Kapoios pou ton akouse na mas pei gia ton ixo... ? (kai oxi aythereta ...enai behringer ara..)
 

发表时间 Sun 11 Apr 10 @ 6:16 pm
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