asymptote
This is great. Good to know that others here believe there is more to DJing than House (which I like too) and hiphop.
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发表时间 Fri 23 Mar 07 @ 7:35 pm
i gotta get the chester and lester and the 4 cd box .........
发表时间 Fri 23 Mar 07 @ 8:34 pm
radiofc
asymptote wrote :
This is great. Good to know that others here believe there is more to DJing than House (which I like too) and hiphop.
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Yeah - I love music of almost all genres and it's great to see I'm not alone here...
For those who are interested there is also a topic on other styles here: http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/63500/Music_discussion/Rock___Alternative___Indie___Soul_DJs.html
发表时间 Fri 23 Mar 07 @ 10:15 pm
Timmyg1978
radiofc wrote :
Yeah - I love music of almost all genres and it's great to see I'm not alone here...
For those who are interested there is also a topic on other styles here: http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/63500/Music_discussion/Rock___Alternative___Indie___Soul_DJs.html
asymptote wrote :
This is great. Good to know that others here believe there is more to DJing than House (which I like too) and hiphop.
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Yeah - I love music of almost all genres and it's great to see I'm not alone here...
For those who are interested there is also a topic on other styles here: http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/63500/Music_discussion/Rock___Alternative___Indie___Soul_DJs.html
I'm the sameway, my boys had a field day when they saw me buy the Kelly Osbourne CD, but hey I like it all, from the statler brothers to suicidal tendencies to the roots to beethoven. I do have to admit though I have a special fetish for the funky likings of the infectious grooves;^]
发表时间 Sat 24 Mar 07 @ 1:11 am
i try to like everything but i don't succeed
rap and hippity hop pretty much gross me out .......
what i really despise is the gangsta .... at my hideous strip club , myself and some of the mgrs actually just bust out laughing at some of the tunes.......so seductive , and ghetto story and i'm a hustla will do the trick everytime .... i try to get 'em to ban it , but there such chicken s s about it ....the "dancers"
get every little thing they want .........i've made myself unpopular at times (imagine that) by telling mgmt to stop pussying around and just buy 'em a bag of coke and leave it in the dressing room for 'em,
the suggestion to paint footsteps on the floor leading to the stage seemed unappreciated too , although i still say it's immensely practical ...lol
to me it seems like the music and the people who like it are way way far removed from the mainstream
i have lots of really good stuff though in a lot of genres ......ya know what i stumbled across on youtube yesterday ?....... a live tape of Focus playing Hocus Pocus .........
there is always good new stuff coming along i don't give up hope completely , in the meantime and betweentime i'm still waiting for at least gangsta to die and go away......
rap and hippity hop pretty much gross me out .......
what i really despise is the gangsta .... at my hideous strip club , myself and some of the mgrs actually just bust out laughing at some of the tunes.......so seductive , and ghetto story and i'm a hustla will do the trick everytime .... i try to get 'em to ban it , but there such chicken s s about it ....the "dancers"
get every little thing they want .........i've made myself unpopular at times (imagine that) by telling mgmt to stop pussying around and just buy 'em a bag of coke and leave it in the dressing room for 'em,
the suggestion to paint footsteps on the floor leading to the stage seemed unappreciated too , although i still say it's immensely practical ...lol
to me it seems like the music and the people who like it are way way far removed from the mainstream
i have lots of really good stuff though in a lot of genres ......ya know what i stumbled across on youtube yesterday ?....... a live tape of Focus playing Hocus Pocus .........
there is always good new stuff coming along i don't give up hope completely , in the meantime and betweentime i'm still waiting for at least gangsta to die and go away......
发表时间 Sat 24 Mar 07 @ 4:36 pm
Timmyg1978
Hehe, the thing about gangsta rap is that it was originaly meant to tell a story and was sort of a call to action for people in these urban enviroments where these things are a harsh reality. Like Ice T's "New Jack Hustler", which goes on basicaly saying "I'm a hustla no way I'm gonna change" then it ends with "say what, my best friend just got shot?". Or Rakims "Know The Ledge" which ends with him getting setup & killed by a rival gang. Granted, some of the artists today have lost the purpose and forget to add a lesson to the story, but I don't pay too much attention to those unless the beats hot enough to pull me in. But there is still alot of responsibility in the hip hop community, on and off stage, I think it was Jay Z who donated a million dollars to the katrina relief fund. But I've always been the biggest fan of rappers who have something important and real to say, like Rakim, Mos Def, Nas, (if you wanna go old school) Kool Moe Dee, Public Enemy, etc. etc..
These are the lyrics to the 2nd verse of Rakims "In The Ghetto";^]
I learn to relax in my room and escape from New York
And return through the womb of the world as a
thought
Thinking how hard it was to be born
Me being cream wit no physical form
Millions OF CELLS wit one destination
To reach the best part, it's life creation
9 months later, a job well done
Make way, 'cause here I come
Since I made it this far, I can't stop now
There's a will and a way and I got THE know-how
To be all I can be and more
And see all there is to see before
I'M Called and go back to the essence
It's alot to learn so I study my lessons
I thought the ghetto was the worst that could
happen to me
I'm glad I listen when my father was rapping to me
'Cause back in the days, they lived in caves
ExileD from the original man that strayed way
Now that's what I call hard times
I rather be here to exercise the mind
Then I take a thought around the world twice
From knowledge the form back to knowledge precise
Across the desert, that's HOT AS THE ARABIAN
But they couldn't cave me in 'cause I'm the Asian
REaching for the city OF Mecca, visit Medina
Visions of Neffertiti then I seen her
Mind keeps traveling, I'll be back after I
Stop and think about the brothers and sisters in
Africa
Return the thought through the eye of a needle
For miles I thought and I just fought the people
Under the dark skies on a dark side
Not only there but right here's an apartheid
So now is the time for us to react
Take a trip through the mind and when you get back
Understand you're third eye seen all of that
It ain't where you're from, it's where you're at
These are the lyrics to the 2nd verse of Rakims "In The Ghetto";^]
I learn to relax in my room and escape from New York
And return through the womb of the world as a
thought
Thinking how hard it was to be born
Me being cream wit no physical form
Millions OF CELLS wit one destination
To reach the best part, it's life creation
9 months later, a job well done
Make way, 'cause here I come
Since I made it this far, I can't stop now
There's a will and a way and I got THE know-how
To be all I can be and more
And see all there is to see before
I'M Called and go back to the essence
It's alot to learn so I study my lessons
I thought the ghetto was the worst that could
happen to me
I'm glad I listen when my father was rapping to me
'Cause back in the days, they lived in caves
ExileD from the original man that strayed way
Now that's what I call hard times
I rather be here to exercise the mind
Then I take a thought around the world twice
From knowledge the form back to knowledge precise
Across the desert, that's HOT AS THE ARABIAN
But they couldn't cave me in 'cause I'm the Asian
REaching for the city OF Mecca, visit Medina
Visions of Neffertiti then I seen her
Mind keeps traveling, I'll be back after I
Stop and think about the brothers and sisters in
Africa
Return the thought through the eye of a needle
For miles I thought and I just fought the people
Under the dark skies on a dark side
Not only there but right here's an apartheid
So now is the time for us to react
Take a trip through the mind and when you get back
Understand you're third eye seen all of that
It ain't where you're from, it's where you're at
发表时间 Sat 24 Mar 07 @ 5:17 pm
that was good...... i have no problem with that
发表时间 Sat 24 Mar 07 @ 5:39 pm
that seems artsy fartsy to me compared to "let's pretend like you don't know who i am and what i do, let's just put that to the side" ................................puhleez.........
发表时间 Sat 24 Mar 07 @ 5:51 pm
mos def ...... i have heard tunes of his i like......i'll look up what i have of his ......... i heard he actually (gasp) plays an instrument ........ does he play bass ?
发表时间 Sat 24 Mar 07 @ 6:02 pm
Timmyg1978
Not 100% sure on that, but there's actualy alot of rappers who play instruments. Digital underground was an actual band and so is the Roots. I'm pretty sure Mos Def plays piano at the very least. Jam Master Jay (RIP) learned guitar before he got into DJ'ing. Hehe, glad you liked the Rakim lyrics, I dug out some more, this ones even better, he's the first rapper I've ever heard cover astro physics in his song. This ones called "The Mystery (Who Is God?)". Last one I promise;^]
Intro/chorus:
If you can see if you can solve the mystery
The answer revolves around your history
So carefully, I drop this degree
Scientifically, and realistically (who is god? )
Repeat chorus
In eternal blackness, in the midst of the darkest night
Proteins and minerals, exist within specks of light
Solids liquids and gases, and sparks of light within
Infinite lengths and widths and depths and heights
No beginning or ending, the seven dimensions
Enough space for more than a million words and inventions
To travel through time within enough room to be the womb
Of the most high’s great mind which he will soon make shine
With intelligent elements in sight that he will gather
In the realms of relativity electricity struck matter
Energies explode he below to keep releasin
Atoms by the millions, til the numbers increasin
Til it was burnin he kept returnin itself to the source
The hotter his thoughts it gave the center more force
He gave birth to the sun which would follow his laws
All caused by his mental intercourse, who is god?
Chorus
He began to explain his craft, the master in the attic
He dealt with measurements his language, was mathematics
His theoretical wisdom of the numerical system
The complete number nine which means born or existed
He gave birth to all planets, inorganic, and organic
So you wouldn’t take it for granted
They rotated they own distance around the sun
And fully submit to the existance of one
And each one was promised everlasting perfection
If each one keeps spinnin in the same direction
To the east, and each speak the motion of peace
And harmony, and each show devotion to teach
The universe is to come, the whole world must go according
Know your galaxies and mirages stars start fallin
So stay in your orbit maintain safe and sound
Like the planets each cipher remains perfectly round
Chorus
From unconciousness, to conciousness
By knowledging his wisdom his response is this
A understanding, which is the best part
He picked the third planet where new forms of life would start
He pursued show and prove every move in order
Back to the source he let off his resources in the water
Climb his climax, where the climate is at, high degrees
See he start to breathe deep in the darkest seas
And the plan is, to lay in the clays to form land
And expand, usin the same clays to born man
In his own image our origin begins in the east
Culture rise to breed, with the powers of peace
Deal in equality nature’s policy is to be god
Build or destroy positively born life like allah
And each one was given everlasting perfection
If each one keep living in the same direction
And life was life, and love was love
We went according by the laws of the world above
They showed us physically, we could reach infinity
But mentally, through the century we lost our identity
Life start and ending, we got trife and started sinning
Lost touch with the beginning now ciphers stop spinnin
And what was once easy became confused and hard
Which brings us back, to the mystic question, who is god?
Sixty-six trillion years since his face was shown
When the seventh angel appears, the mystery will be known
Check revelations and genesis, st. luke and john
It even tells us we are gods in the holy qu’ran
Wisdom strength and beauty, one of the meanings of god
G.o.d. you and me ? gomars o dubar?
Knowledge wisdom understanding sun moon and star
Man woman and child, and so is allah
Chorus
Bear witness to allah, gave birth to all
For allah was all, and therefore, life itself
And the universe gave birth to man
The universe was man, and man was the universe
And the universe was always existed
And existance was life
And life is allah
And allah had no beginning because he is, what always was
Rakim allah, peace
Now who is god?
Intro/chorus:
If you can see if you can solve the mystery
The answer revolves around your history
So carefully, I drop this degree
Scientifically, and realistically (who is god? )
Repeat chorus
In eternal blackness, in the midst of the darkest night
Proteins and minerals, exist within specks of light
Solids liquids and gases, and sparks of light within
Infinite lengths and widths and depths and heights
No beginning or ending, the seven dimensions
Enough space for more than a million words and inventions
To travel through time within enough room to be the womb
Of the most high’s great mind which he will soon make shine
With intelligent elements in sight that he will gather
In the realms of relativity electricity struck matter
Energies explode he below to keep releasin
Atoms by the millions, til the numbers increasin
Til it was burnin he kept returnin itself to the source
The hotter his thoughts it gave the center more force
He gave birth to the sun which would follow his laws
All caused by his mental intercourse, who is god?
Chorus
He began to explain his craft, the master in the attic
He dealt with measurements his language, was mathematics
His theoretical wisdom of the numerical system
The complete number nine which means born or existed
He gave birth to all planets, inorganic, and organic
So you wouldn’t take it for granted
They rotated they own distance around the sun
And fully submit to the existance of one
And each one was promised everlasting perfection
If each one keeps spinnin in the same direction
To the east, and each speak the motion of peace
And harmony, and each show devotion to teach
The universe is to come, the whole world must go according
Know your galaxies and mirages stars start fallin
So stay in your orbit maintain safe and sound
Like the planets each cipher remains perfectly round
Chorus
From unconciousness, to conciousness
By knowledging his wisdom his response is this
A understanding, which is the best part
He picked the third planet where new forms of life would start
He pursued show and prove every move in order
Back to the source he let off his resources in the water
Climb his climax, where the climate is at, high degrees
See he start to breathe deep in the darkest seas
And the plan is, to lay in the clays to form land
And expand, usin the same clays to born man
In his own image our origin begins in the east
Culture rise to breed, with the powers of peace
Deal in equality nature’s policy is to be god
Build or destroy positively born life like allah
And each one was given everlasting perfection
If each one keep living in the same direction
And life was life, and love was love
We went according by the laws of the world above
They showed us physically, we could reach infinity
But mentally, through the century we lost our identity
Life start and ending, we got trife and started sinning
Lost touch with the beginning now ciphers stop spinnin
And what was once easy became confused and hard
Which brings us back, to the mystic question, who is god?
Sixty-six trillion years since his face was shown
When the seventh angel appears, the mystery will be known
Check revelations and genesis, st. luke and john
It even tells us we are gods in the holy qu’ran
Wisdom strength and beauty, one of the meanings of god
G.o.d. you and me ? gomars o dubar?
Knowledge wisdom understanding sun moon and star
Man woman and child, and so is allah
Chorus
Bear witness to allah, gave birth to all
For allah was all, and therefore, life itself
And the universe gave birth to man
The universe was man, and man was the universe
And the universe was always existed
And existance was life
And life is allah
And allah had no beginning because he is, what always was
Rakim allah, peace
Now who is god?
发表时间 Sat 24 Mar 07 @ 6:13 pm
uhhhh ....... i personally am not able to accept hardly anything wherein they invoke allah........
on 9/11 6 people from my little town of new providence , nj died ........don't believe me , please look it up
i'm not diggin' allah these days and my capacity to understand violence perpetrated for any reason has been severely compromised ..........
on 9/11 6 people from my little town of new providence , nj died ........don't believe me , please look it up
i'm not diggin' allah these days and my capacity to understand violence perpetrated for any reason has been severely compromised ..........
发表时间 Sat 24 Mar 07 @ 8:52 pm
Timmyg1978
Well I feel you on that, but it's not Islam that's the problem, it's the same fundamentalism that leads protistant extremists to bomb abortion clinics. Eh, but' that's all I'm gonna say on that, word is my bond. I respectfuly agree to disagree there;^]
发表时间 Sun 25 Mar 07 @ 6:08 am
radiofc
Have we gone a little off-topic here folks? I think it would be best to keep this discussion focused on Les Paul and his influence on music as we know it...
发表时间 Mon 26 Mar 07 @ 12:01 pm