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Topic: How many times do you guys F up transitions?

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This past weekend I had a 3 hr dance party. I finally started recording and I heard about 3-5 blah transitions and there was 1 trainwreck (for the first time I accidentally hit deck swap). The dancefloor was full the entire night so I suppose the mess ups weren't too noticeable. How about you guys?
 
发表时间 Mon 14 Oct 13 @ 6:08 pm
I'm normally a little loose in the beginning of the night, but they tighten up as the night goes. I train wreck every so often though. As an artist you should always be your own biggest critic. Half the time those train wrecks seem worse to you then anyone else listening. Keep practicing, and they will be far and few between before you notice. I have a buddy that's done sound for some big acts including Tiesto. He said everyone train wrecks, you just have to be good at covering it up. Sort of like when you trip and pretend that you wanted to start running.
 
I can totally relate to you suggesting to be your own critic, that comes naturally with me and sometimes its just a slap in the face. Also I agree with being lose in the beginning of the night... but there's also when I want to get to a different type of music, and it doesn't always go smoothly!!
 
I echo pretty much everything Jason said. I was saying how I botched a good mix I do after a show at a friend's wedding. Nobody heard it. Slightly off beats, so I cut to one track and brought the mix back and still sounded bad... Can't win them all, got a little crazy that weding and showed off a bit. Packed the floor and on to the next.

If you recognize it in time to correct it live, you are paying attention and that is a good thing. Turn your mistakes in to drive to be even tighter next time.
 
Those who mix everyday will notice how much smoother their transitions are, as compared to those who only mix once a week, for example. Before I record a mix, I mix for at least an hour a day for a week. Your ear becomes very sensitive to the blend after a while. So, I've noticed what you're talking about after a lay off from mixing.
 
Good tip actually! Been skipping that practice lately and working more on content. Only play a couple times a month!
 
You are your own worst critic. That being said, I've messed up a TON of transitions, and i grew up listening to DJ's that were all about transitions, i used to skip through the traks just to hear em. BUUUUUUT. In live play, they are but moments in time, you cant get to hung up on em or else they wont be a stumble, but a set of stumbles into a full on train wreck. Just keep swimming(love that movie). Keep practicing and keep playing, and it will all be fine. As you've said, the dancefloor was full the whole night, so it isnt like they turned the lights on you, right? No bottles thrown? Good job and keep going! :)
 
All the time :)

And I also do "I wonder if this will work" kind of mixes, simply because it's exiting, and it opens the possiblilities to mix things that is not easily mixed - and those often kind of fail

If you train wreck, don't try to hide it. The crowd normally think it's fun if it only happens ones

I've actually thought of having a sample made with an angry voice saying "What the hell is the DJ doing", and when I train wreck, simply stop the music, play the sample, and then drop in the next tune :)

Best regards
Klaus Mogensen
 


Think everyone has had a train wreck or two in their mixes, surprised by a break, or beat drifting off, or worse - accidentally touching a button or the jogwheels, having thing totally out of beat...

Hard to avoid, and kind of the charm of live sets. Its not perfect, its not recorded, its not pre-mixed, its live ;)
 
I think though if you practice everyday you'll get better. One thing I've always done is at least mix for an hour or two everyday. And Yes the wife does get pissed but it's something I have to do to stay up on my game. Any mixtape (do we still call it that?) I've ever done has always been a "one shot". None of this going back and editing crap. I always say, if you can't at least do an hour mix flawlessly then you need to keep pushing. If you can't walk up to any kind of setup and throw down, you need to keep pushing, if you can't use any software out on the market today, you need to keep pushing.
Another thing I do is try to practice with people who are better then me. I always felt when your on the same level you never truly push yourself. Sure you can be good but you'll never go any further. I also shut the laptop down and mix with only records or CDs. I find that this keeps my ears sharp and on point.

Now these are rules that I apply to myself, not saying there the only way but I've found this has made me a better dj.
 
pretty.lights wrote :
This past weekend I had a 3 hr dance party. I finally started recording and I heard about 3-5 blah transitions and there was 1 trainwreck (for the first time I accidentally hit deck swap). The dancefloor was full the entire night so I suppose the mess ups weren't too noticeable. How about you guys?



Happens to the best of us playing live. I always just go with the flow of the crowd. Although I try to stay on key, count bars and phrase my transitions. Doesn't always work out. Sometimes you just gotta drop that track. Some of the nights where I thought I did the worst are the the nights I get the most compliments. Its cause I was in tune with the crowd and gave em the tracks they wanted when they were ready for it.

I 've hit cue on the CDJ that was playing, lifted the tonearm on the turntable thats playing. Grabbed the jog wheel on the deck that was playing. Got too busy talking to some chick and let the song play out. Bunch of other stuff.
 
Since the advent of computer generated music, I do not have a transition problem. I continue to have the same issues as Xcakid above. I remember the first time I lifted the tone arm off the record that was playing. We all looked at the amp racks, because we thought we blew the amps. I still had the tone arm in my hand, frozen. It seem like it was eternity. When I finally realized it was me, I dropped it back on the exact spot. How stupid is that? Actually, not that stupid. I have done that several times, and last week pressed the cue button on the track that was playing. It's easier to play that off now, but it still happens. I also suffer from the pretty women distraction, but not as much, because that is a three day a week thing. Because I buy so much music on line, I may not have heard the whole song, and get the surprise vocal intro. I will not force that. Loop, back out, start over.
 
I used to have a transition problem. Now I think about baseball stats and my transitions last much longer....
 
So that's my problem, I was thinking about the twins and their stats. You know.....the baseball team from........that city.
 
xcakid wrote :


Happens to the best of us playing live. I always just go with the flow of the crowd. Although I try to stay on key, count bars and phrase my transitions. Doesn't always work out.




true true, and kinda think thats part of the charm. A dj set shouldnt be too polished, too 'produced' ... a bit of 'error' and feeling of being made live on the fly, can be a good thing. Of course try the best to avoid the bigger 'errors', but not being perfect is ok ;)
 
Depends on how much I've been drinking. If I've had too much I really screw up the transition between beer and shots (I struggle to sync between the glass and my mouth). ;-)
 
If it happens, it happens. I don't waste too much time trying to correct it, if it's gone Pete Tong, just cut to the next track and hope the next one will be better! What you play is more important than how you play it - well that's what I tell myself if I make a f*** up at least! :)
 
I don't drink (alcohol) when I'm DJing, but I still make mistakes. Mainly user error, the same type of thing that others have mentioned. Taking my eye off the ball so to speak. I've been doing it for long enough that if/when it happens, it doesn't phase me at all - I just carry on.
 
I'll be honest, the odd time I might load a track to the wrong deck or hit stop on the currently playing deck by accident, but when it comes to transitions I can say that I NEVER mess those up... EVER! And that includes mixing old disco tracks etc. with inconsistent rhythms which are harder to beat mix. Mind you, I've been doing this for 30 years so unless I have a stroke in the middle of a transition there's no way I'm going to mess it up. I feel that if you are really on your game then messy transitions should never happen. And poor transitions can be the result of more than just making a mistake... it can also be due to being intoxicated, laziness, not paying attention, trying to pull off a transition beyond your skill level, allowing yourself to be distracted by patrons etc. What I'm getting at is if know how to beat mix then messing up a couple of times a gig doesn't mean you're a bad DJ, it means you're an inattentive DJ... you know how to mix but for some reason you're allowing one of the other factors I mentioned earlier to eff up your mix. Do whatever you want between mixes but at the moment when you're doing a blend be in the moment and concentrate so you don't mess it up.
 
dizzyrocks2001 wrote :

And poor transitions can be the result of more than just making a mistake... it can also be due to being intoxicated, laziness, not paying attention, trying to pull off a transition beyond your skill level, allowing yourself to be distracted by patrons etc..



I think thats the essence ... mistakes can happen ;) its not a perfect world lol
 


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