splao
How can I tell if a song is in a major or minor key? all the songs have a Capital letter with a small m next to them; example Am, A#m. Both of those keys could be either major or minor. VDJ does not distinguish which one is minor or major. Is it possible or do I have to use another program?
发表时间 Tue 18 Jan 11 @ 7:16 pm
Fuskit
I usually just use the camelot method (the numbers instead of the letters) the above wheel will show you what I mean. With the camelot method you mix either the same number or one number up or one number down. A's are minors and B's are majors. I will say that out of all my music I have maybe three songs that are "X"b. And I have A LOT of music. Check out this site for a more in depth description of what I am talking about. http://www.harmonic-mixing.com/HowTo.aspx . Hope that helps some.
Michael
发表时间 Tue 18 Jan 11 @ 7:39 pm
splao
I guess I will have to use that but I wish VDJ could differentiate between major and minor keys
发表时间 Tue 18 Jan 11 @ 10:27 pm
splao
VDJ is indicating that every song is in the minor key. This is obviously wrong.
发表时间 Tue 18 Jan 11 @ 10:33 pm
DJGCE
Am = A minor
A = A Major.
this is how i learned with guitar it shouldn't differentiate by "instrument"
A = A Major.
this is how i learned with guitar it shouldn't differentiate by "instrument"
发表时间 Tue 18 Jan 11 @ 11:21 pm
splao
I guess I'm wrong, most keys are in minor
发表时间 Wed 19 Jan 11 @ 12:00 am
bryantpb
No, most rock songs are in a Major key, a lot of slow songs, esp. the oldies are in a minor key, but as you can see by the chart, every major key has a "relative" minor...for ex. the key of Am is really the same and uses most of the same chord arrangement as the key of C major.
发表时间 Wed 19 Jan 11 @ 11:59 am
Mike Marble
I use "Rapid Evolution" (at mixshare.com) - it's free and pretty accurate.
You can then use the VDJ detection algorithm for double checking. Usually, if both RE and VDJ agree on the same key, it has been detected correctly. If they are differnent, RE tends to be a lot better at detecting keys.
And yes, what someone else stated above is absolutely true: VDJ detects everything is minor. But mind, it does not necessary detect the correct relative minor to a major, but simply detects the key, but not wether it is maj or min.
RE also has a buillt in keyboard with a piano sound mapped to it. That way you can double check detections by ear.
You can then use the VDJ detection algorithm for double checking. Usually, if both RE and VDJ agree on the same key, it has been detected correctly. If they are differnent, RE tends to be a lot better at detecting keys.
And yes, what someone else stated above is absolutely true: VDJ detects everything is minor. But mind, it does not necessary detect the correct relative minor to a major, but simply detects the key, but not wether it is maj or min.
RE also has a buillt in keyboard with a piano sound mapped to it. That way you can double check detections by ear.
发表时间 Wed 19 Jan 11 @ 1:00 pm
groovindj
The usual guideline for determining (aurally) whether a song is major or minor is: If the music sounds 'happy' then it's major. If it sounds more 'sad' then it's minor.
It would be nice if VDJ was a bit smarter with key recognition though...
It would be nice if VDJ was a bit smarter with key recognition though...
发表时间 Wed 19 Jan 11 @ 1:01 pm
kelerik
Most "popular" songs are in a major key - however - there is no "rule" that says a song should be written in a major or minor key.
It's the progression of notes in the musical scale that makes it major of minor.
The easiest to see is the scale of C major - which uses all the white notes on a piano (no black notes, ie sharps or flats)
Now try playing the same scale making the notes E and A "flat" (using the black note to the left of E and A) - and see what it sounds like
Keeping it very simple:
a "minor" scale uses the same "letters/notes" as a major key - EXCEPT that up to three ("up to" depending on the type of minor scale - of which there are two - harmonic and melodic and wheter it is asceding or descending) of the notes in the major scale are "flattened" which tend to give the new minor scale a "sadder" sound than its major counterpart -
In the scale of C major, the E, A and B notes are flattened according to the type of scale, and hence the Key signature for Cminor appearing on written music has three "b"'s (b = flat in music), wheras the key signature for C major has no flats or (sharps)
The MOST dominant note note in the scale that gives it this "sad" sound is the third note which in the Key of C is the note "E" - and on a guitar (or much easier to see on a piano) ... - IF you play a C major chord, and then a Cminor chord - you'll see that the ONLY difference between the two chords is that the E note(s) is flattened
By common usage.. for showing "chords" A capital letter such as C, F , G etc indicates C major, F major G major, and Cm Fm Gm indicates the minor chord - and as someone else has pointed out - that is independant of the instrument! - You can play a Cminor chord on a piano , Guitar, keyboard etc
It's the progression of notes in the musical scale that makes it major of minor.
The easiest to see is the scale of C major - which uses all the white notes on a piano (no black notes, ie sharps or flats)
Now try playing the same scale making the notes E and A "flat" (using the black note to the left of E and A) - and see what it sounds like
Keeping it very simple:
a "minor" scale uses the same "letters/notes" as a major key - EXCEPT that up to three ("up to" depending on the type of minor scale - of which there are two - harmonic and melodic and wheter it is asceding or descending) of the notes in the major scale are "flattened" which tend to give the new minor scale a "sadder" sound than its major counterpart -
In the scale of C major, the E, A and B notes are flattened according to the type of scale, and hence the Key signature for Cminor appearing on written music has three "b"'s (b = flat in music), wheras the key signature for C major has no flats or (sharps)
The MOST dominant note note in the scale that gives it this "sad" sound is the third note which in the Key of C is the note "E" - and on a guitar (or much easier to see on a piano) ... - IF you play a C major chord, and then a Cminor chord - you'll see that the ONLY difference between the two chords is that the E note(s) is flattened
By common usage.. for showing "chords" A capital letter such as C, F , G etc indicates C major, F major G major, and Cm Fm Gm indicates the minor chord - and as someone else has pointed out - that is independant of the instrument! - You can play a Cminor chord on a piano , Guitar, keyboard etc
发表时间 Wed 19 Jan 11 @ 1:36 pm