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Re: FunkmasterFranks post. I am glad i'm not the only one who sometimes leaves a gig feeling flat, thinking that the night went crap and then being thanked for a great night. Saturday night gone was a School theme and so a change from my usual format, playing tunes i had'nt even heard myself, very hit and miss, in my opinion, however lots of praise and thanks was forth coming. Being mobile and not Club dependent with carrying and have a free hand in playing all genres helps as many of the clubs i know restrict their DJS to percentages, hence why i refused to work for one of the big Club chains in the UK apart from the money is very poor. I tend not to follow to the rule of playing sets for the first two hours as it can be so restrictive and thanks to the VDJ software easily accessing the libarary and with my experence able to slip in and out of genres works for me and keeps the folks happy. Now considering i have often been asked what the previous tune was i was playing and can't bloody remember indicates what a poor memory i have, so beats me how i manage to get through the night, however never forget to hand in the invoice :)


 

Remember a request is just that a "request" no guarantee that you will play the request, we are DJs not jukeboxes. If your crowd is already having a good time with you playing house stick with it, changing to a different genre can sometimes just kill the dance floor. I will usually get one or two requests for something completely different than what I'm playing and if the crowd is having a good time I kindly decline and let them know I'm not playing that genre tonight and if I can I'll work it in later.
 

Couple of things I've done in the past with a terrible request.

Played it, and when the dance floor clears I take out my hand held spotlight, flash it on the jerk who requested it. Turned on the mic and said.......
"This guy/girl told me that [Everyone would love this song. Clearly He/She/It was mistaken. Would you like me to turn it off?"


Crowd response works well.



When told I would get a 50 dollar tip. For playing a song.
"Cash on the dash M/F, or not at all"



Play a completely different style of music than whats going at the moment.
"Sorry the management has decided that, that's no longer in our format here."



When being yelled at AKA -1) YOU SUCK, 2)THIS MUSIC SUCKS!!!, 3)OMG I WANT TO KILL MYSELF.

1) Sucking is woman's work (for a guy yelling)
1a) You broke honey?, cause the street corner is out side. (for a girl)

2) The full dance floor says it doesn't. Have a beer and enjoy your self, cause obviously none of the girls in here want to enjoy you.
Flip it around for a girl yelling.

3) Would you please?, I won't have to listen to you bitch then.


Work in a club for any length of time, You'll eventually here almost every type of insult, racist comment (I'm Native-Canadian), Drunken Idiots have to offer. Some of those repsoneses are a little harsh, and unprofessional from a strictly politically correct point of view; and I would agree but there is only 2 real ways of dealing with belligerent drunk customers.

1) kick em out.
2) make em feel small.

I've done both, Normally kicking someone out of the bar pisses the management off more than the customer. You kick someone out - their money leaves with them. You piss a customer off, the manager buy a free jug of draft for the table (assuming the jerk has friends) and give a coupon for no line no cover the following week end.

Make friends with a comedian, I was drinking with a buddy of mine on one of his rare days off (Tours Western Canada a LOT) and he gets a lot of the same comments thrown at him while onstage. Some of those comebacks are direct lifts form his act.
 

damn net.
 

Dude, don't quit. You had a crowd of dumb f**ks that were drunk and stupid. You have to remember that you cannot please everyone all the time. At your next gig, have a notepad and a pen with you. When someone asks you to play reggeton or any song, tell them to write it down and tell the person if you have it, you will play it. See if you actually have it. If you do, great, play it. If you don't just do what you do.

This makes the person requesting a song not feel neglected. Try this and see how it goes. Don't quit, you make people shake thier ass!!

Syberman


Please pay attention of the choice of words on the forum ;)
DJ-ALF
 

Dude...

It sounds like you did a good job and had a successful show. You CAN'T PLEASE EVERYONE ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!! It's just a fact of life.

If you have the majority of people partying, you are doing exactly what you are supposed to do.

I've been in the business for over 20 years and it still happens to me. A lot of people will come up to me and ask for a certian song or a certain kind of music. If it fits in with what I'm doing...fine, no problem. If it does not, but it's something I can play later and won't kill my dancefloor, I let them know that I will play it later when I get to that part of the show.

If it's something that I KNOW will kill my dancefloor, the answer is NO.

I don't argue with people. I usually don't go into an explanation either. My answer consists of just one word. NO. When I do need to explain, I direct their attention to the dancefloor and let them know that their request will upset the party. If they keep on about it I say "Do I go to your job and tell you how to do it?"

I usually end the conversation with "Just go party" Yeah, thats right. I tell people to GO PARTY. It's a nice way of saying leave me the hell alone and let me do my job.

Often I will have a partner with me that acts as a buffer between me and the crowd. He already knows what I will and will not play and he knows how I play.

Sometimes I know I come across as rude but I'm just being direct and most people respect that. Even the drunk ones and yes...even the pretty, stuck up, think their all that, think the sun don't shine till they wake up ladies. If they don't...OH WELL cause guess what? They partied most of the night and had a good time regardless. I get some of them that come to me at the end of the show and say "you did a good job. You did not play my song though"
I say "Sorry but I could not play that. had the party rocking and had to keep it moving.

I get these people back in the club week after week, partying and having a great time.

Don't cave in because there are jerks in the world and these jerks like to party. Just keep doing your thing and keep the MAJORITY happy.

Be Encouraged.
 

I've recently started a karaoke at a local boozer in my town. The other night there was this one drunken bitch who wanted to sing at the end and i was told no more singers so told her no, not tonight. Perfectly politely of course.

Anyway, i had another dj of mine in the same boozer on saturday there and i went along at the end of the night to pick up his gear. The same bitch was there...(STILL!!!) in the drunken state from a fortnight ago. As i was clearing up, she was like 'how do i know you?'. I told her i usually do the karaoke in here and she said to me 'oh yeah. so you do. But you're shit at it cos you think you're so good looking'. My first instinct was to laugh at probably the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard, but Straight away i was like 'what is the deal with your attitude? I was told NOT to let you sing so you weren't allowed to sing. that's it'. 'Yeah, but that makes you shit'.

Now, usually, i take personal comments like that on board and they seriously bash my ego. I don't like being told i'm not good at my job. I'm not saying i'm brilliant, but hey, at the end of the day these pubs are paying me my liveliehood to sing karaoke and provide a night of entertaining music. I'm happy with that because the same pub were telling her NOT to sing. Hmmm...who's winning that argument? (",)

Don't get too ego bashed. If you heard every single comment from every single punter you'd realise that not everybody likes what you do. That's just the fact of spinning tunes. The drunken bums will go to bed and in the morning wake up and think to themselves 'oh shit, what did i say to that dj?'

One final thought. That's the first time you've experienced this in 15 years? Shit mate, you must be doing something right!!!

Keep spinnin'...(",)

P
 

you get these kind of people everywhere - the ones who walk in and think they own the place!

the thing is, you may get the odd crap comment, and that comes with the job. but there are way more people liking what you are doing than not - its just those are the ones who decide to let you know how they feel.

if they dont like what you do - they wont stay. that's their call - but there may be a problem is this is happening too often and you end up getting no-one back and an empty dance floor.

Grin, bare it and practice when you get home.

Also - not sure if I'd play '2 becomes 1', i would be booed out if the club - that's where knowledge of the club comes in and reading your crowd is important.

I'm lucky that i get to work at two different bars - in a sense - i get to flex all my dj muscles - one is a hiphop bar, the music i like, therefore most of the music i play, i know and like. the other is a student bar that i will play more requested songs and not necessarily the songs i know and like but enjoy the challenge of it.

I would maybe suggest going into the club a night you're not working and subtly checking out everything that's going on - who's playing/what they playing, have a dance (you never know, someone might throw a complement your way - "oh you're the guy who played here last week, had a great time!"), and just a general vide of the place and when's suitable to switch genre.

Good luck and happy mixing!
 

Pionara,

I have indeed been in the business for 15 years. And, every now and then, I did get the occasional drunken trash-talker come up and insult the crap out of me. I can live with that, and I have.

But this saturday, it was NASTY!! I was a few seconds away from picking up the mike and calling for security. That's how bad it was! Not because of the two chicks -- they just didn't know what they wanted -- but because of the guy who was actualy going to hit me... Maybe he wasn't even going to do it, but it sure as hell LOOKED like he was going to. This is where I draw the line. There's a reason I don't want to be involved in a fight and that is because I don't know how to fight. I once accidentaly broke a guys' tooth just defending myself. If someone tries to hurt me, I might panic and do something very bad.

DJ Marze,

I appreciate the suggestion, but I have been to this club before, both as a customer AND as a DJ. I guess I wasn't prepared well enough for what was coming. After all, it's been almost a year since the last time I played there. The worst part is, I did really good until I got so distracted by these two chicks, I couldn't focus on the right stuff anymore. As far as "2 become 1" is concerned, I had played it before at that very same club, but now it's out of my database forever!

Thank's for the support.
 

The serato forums have a very good (2000+ replies thread) on this subject, sadly enough I read the entire thing.

I have had a lot of this though. a few of the better ones..

Most recently, I was doing a company end of year party. I happened to have everything setup so the laptop couldn't really be seen by someone standing in front of me (some permanent furniture was in front of it) So this guy walks up, see's the laptop and says very smugly "told my friends it'd just be a computer mixing" I decided rather than just telling him to f/off i might just make him feel stupid so I told him to come around behind the table and quickly showed him the laptop basically does nothing besides have music on it (i'm using vinyl TCV's) kicked him down from his pedestal very quickly where he was trying to brag about how he was a DJ and basically, was so good because he did everything with vinyl.

Before a 21st I was DJing, I got an email from the organiser with no fewer than 150 songs I "must play explicit versions of" As has been said before I decided "im a DJ, not a jukebox" and decided if she complained on the night I would just have to tell her that. On the night...she was a little stressed for the first little while but I Ignored it. Played what I wanted the whole not, kept the dancefloor packed and left with a $200 tip from the girl, along with her number.

People always think they know what will work, but really....your the person that has the experience playing music for a crowd. Mixing skill is irrelevant if you cannot play the suitable music for the crowd. Requests are only worth paying attention to if they are something that you personally think will work, otherwise it's your set. Not the drunk chick abusing you for not playing some shit song that will kill the floor.
 

hey there....

There is a big difference between Reggaeton.... and Reggae trust me
Reggaeton.... is latin music mon.... and honestly a few of them are good.. but most are not really appreciated by patrons here... probably u may get a way with playing reggaeton.. for 10 minutes the most here

Of course your choice of Red Red Wine, I shot the sherrif.. murder she wrote is reggae (true) but in my country is considered classics etc.
Reggae is divided into many different sections...
Ska & Bee bop - classics of the 70s and 80s before
Roots Rock and Culture Singers Rock - which is a normally between 75-90 bpm.. and is more a souls type vocal setting (very good songs here) an appreciation of the words of the songs... etc... by patrons
Dancehall (Reggae) - now this is where the music gets bump & grindy or dancy... beats normally range from - 75bpm - 130bpm even up to 140bpm - These songs are normally placed on riddims - (couple songs on the same riddim) and interchanged quickly to keep the tempo going)
straight dancing and crazy grinding for example sean paul - like glue, tok - just got paid, sanchez - tonight forever - all this on the buyout riddim

Although i doubt your patrons would have know them either
 

Depends on where you are in Canada digitalwiz.

I can't speak for Montreal, where intermodal is from , but in two of the 3 cities where I lived in Canada there has always been a large segment of Caribbean population. One is Toronto (grew up there) GIGANTIC population of people from Jamaica, Trinidad, Guyana, Barbados, etc.

They also have the largest Carnival Festival outside of the Caribbean in the summer called CARIBANNA.

Winnipeg - not so much.:P

Edmonton - Same deal as Toronto only a little smaller and The Carnival fest is called CARI-WEST.

Big reggea fan base out here. in most nightclubs reggea will be played over hip hop

Couple of artists, I used to play regularly (and still do for mobile gigs)

Sean Paul
Beenie Man
Kevin Lyttle
Lady Saw
Elephant man
Fito Blanko
Cecile
Saga Bois
Shabba Ranks
Papa San
Gegory Issics....

Okay well you get the idea.

 

yeah.. but you still missing the new stuff

Movado
Busy Signal
Konchens
Assassin
Serani
Vegas
Aidonia

these guys are hot now mon
 

ha ha female drunks are the worst.

the best thing to do is, make a folder and fill it up with a lot of old or different tracks, regarding the type of music ur playing, the more u have the best chance you will have at being able to make a request.
but then ya gota look at the crowd and think, " this request will make one more person happy and 1 less complaint, however what if the rest of the crowd hate it! "
 

Request is a part of the dj biz so get with the program and use it as an opportunity to win over a new customer. When they make a request give them your business card and ask them for their name so you can shout them out on the mike. That way everybody knows that stephanie made that fucked up request and not you. If u keep getting tons of request then perhaps your not playing the right songs so check yourself, a few request are normal for a night. Hell you may get lucky and get a phone number from that cute girl. Remember always stay focused and just rock the party.
 

Jimmy La Lunia said it best in his classic house track "No Requests"......"Do I take requests, of course I take requests! I don't play them but I always take them...."
 

DJ Marcel,

Just to clear things up, the bar I played at is in Repentigny, which is a suburb of Montreal. The population there consists mostly of caucasian french canadians. But, it seems to have become a tendancy over the years, especially among the female population, where "If it's not Reggaetone, it's not danceable". I mean, some nights, no matter what the club or where the location, I actualy HAD to play reggaetone all night long, otherwise the place was dead. And it had nothing to do with the ethnic background of the crowd. Reggaetone was just THE "in" type of music, and if you danced to anything else, you were a disgrace.

Which is why, last saturday, I was in fact very suprised at how good a response I got when playing house. Hadn't seen that in quite a while. No offense to reggaetone lovers, but I also found it comforting to see some people actualy being sick of this music. I can see how reggaetone has it's charms, but too much of something can make you ill. I really think reggaetone has been overused in clubs, over the past few years. In live broadcasts on the radio, all you could hear playing in clubs was reggaetone, reggaetone, reggaetone. Right now, this current seems to be coming to an end, for better or for worst. The same way, I guess, people got tired of house and techno for a while, but it seems the tendancy is slowly reversing. I've even heard several DJ's play some good old 90's eurodance recently, and the response was surprisingly good among youngsters.
 

Yeah, we DJs will get these horrible gigs occassionally.

it's always tough when you're going through it but then the next gig you rock the house to a truly appreciative crowd and life is good again...

 

On a positive note. In the main most gigs go well but its that one person who can upset the DJ. One i remember was a Birthday party, the floor was jammed then an uninvited women " which i didn't know at the time " wanted me to change the so called shit i was playing just to suit her, i declined and left it at that, however the thought of her marred the evening for me as it left me wondering if my play list needed tweaking. A great evening finally came to an end with guest thanking me, but this didn't stop the anxiety. After experiencing this on few occasions now i just take it for granted that you will always get one arse ole , so when a request is made i ask for their name so if and when i can slip it in the play list any blame can be apportioned to them, however if the request is totally out of place then it won't get played. The positive point is that taking it for granted that some drunken bum is gonna cause you grief makes it all the more easier to deal with, suppose its an experience thing.

Any way guys and girls have a great christmas and be positive , its the DJ that has the control of the floor and if your seen to be having fun so will the crowd. " As he writes holding head in his hands with a stinking cold aching bones, headache, cats waiting to be fed .......................... :)

Chris
 

my favorites are

1) This music sucks, play something good...what would you like...I don't know but play something I like....in my mind I say "i'm not carnack bitch if you don't know what the f you like how should I".....but in reallity I just say okay, I'll find something you'll like.

2) Play something we can dance too....in my mind it's "I've seen you dance and there is NO music you can dance to".... but in reality I say okay, I'll find something you'll like.

3) We (pretending to mean the whole crowd including the 300 or so on the dance floor) want something different.......(in my straightest face possible I say).....okay, the next song will be a different song, I promise
 

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